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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by waboremo »

bagacrap wrote: post #96

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

Legal issues. Dash cams aren't allowed universally, and even when they are they tend to have restrictions (how it's mounted, how footage is handled, etc). They've just decided dealing with this pain point is not worth the purchase conversions since users can just add one themselves.

There are some brands that have them, usually as an additional package depending on where you are. Like Toyota's Genuine Dash in Canada, Tesla Dashcam, BMW Car Eye, etc.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #97
jeffbee wrote: post #92

It would be unlawful in the state of California to mount a mobile phone in a position that would make it suitable for this purpose, in the way that most people would do it. Technically you can mount a Pixel-sized device in the furthest corner from the driver but nobody is going to bother doing it that way. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

Edit: I’m removing this comment. It’s not productive and doesn’t contribute to the discussion. My apologies.

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by oh_sigh »

bagacrap wrote: post #96

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

The simple answer is that backup cameras are required by regulation for safety, whereas dashcams don't increase safety.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by judge2020 »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by ridgered4 »

bagacrap wrote: post #96

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

I'd prefer cars just add standardized mount points with power and maybe data lines. Then I could install different cheap products I selected, or none at all.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by mschuster91 »

judge2020 wrote: post #105
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

Everyone should be free to choose if they have a car that automatically generates tons of evidence against themselves that the cops just have to seize.

It's bad enough with eCall and the trend to insurances requiring recording blackboxes (or modern cars doing that all on their own), but dashcams? I can already see police demanding laws allowing them to force you to hand them over access to the footage at a roadside traffic stop and them running AI scans on it to see if you ran a stop sign or red light or if you were speeding.

Where there's feeding troughs of data, the pigs will always come to demand being fed (a rough translation of the German saying "Wenn man den Trog hat, kommen die Schweine von ganz alleine").

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by leetcrew »

judge2020 wrote: post #105
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

no thanks. pervasive surveillance is bad enough already without the requirement that the surveiled pay for the hardware themselves.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Post by judge2020 »

leetcrew wrote: post #109
judge2020 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

no thanks. pervasive surveillance is bad enough already without the requirement that the surveiled pay for the hardware themselves.

Why is surveillance a requirement? Local recordings would have virtually no downsides unless the intention is to evade responsibility for traffic collisions.
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