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Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by MPSimmons »

shingen wrote: post #80

The bottom line is simple: they can't do it, they won't be able to do it, and it makes the issue moot. Someone is desperate for attention. You would need to have complete control over the infrastructure of something equivalent to an Amazon, Microsoft, or Google to take down the whole DNS system - and it would require a permanently sustained and constantly evolving attack. I'm always amazed at the vast under-estimatio…

Um, BGP?

Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by chris »

9 of the 13 root servers were taken down via a DDoS back in 2002.

http://c.root-servers.org/october21.txt

Although the report states "2.4. There are no known reports of end-user visible error conditions during, and as a result of, this attack.", it's not entirely accurate. I personally experienced issues with name resolution shortly after the attack started, and had no idea what the cause was until afterward. If I recall correctly, my name resolution was handled by Qwest, as they were the T1 transit provider I was using at the time.

Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by dedward »

pyre wrote: post #90
devnul3 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you're in the ambulance, or think you might be, and are refused access to life-saving medicine, you will be terrified. Terrorism is using force or the threat of force against a population to achieve political or economic goals. That is chapter and verse what Anon is doing with these threats. There are (obviously) degrees of terrorism. Hitting buildings with planes isn't the same as sending a few letters with anthr…

> Terrorism is using force or the threat of force > against a population to achieve political or economic > goals A bunch of people handcuffed in a circle around a hospital doesn't have anything to do with 'force.' Just sayin'.

okay, lets see..... so your kid is in the mbulNce on his way to the hospital. a bunch of people, by way of their sheer numbers, purposefully prevent your kid from receiving the medical attention he needs. kid dies.

i agree terrorism is a strertch, to be sure.... . but lets not mix words. a picket line is one thing, they generally wont physically stop you from passing. there are plenty of countries in the workd, quite nice places otherwise, where such proteststurn into full blockades of highways, and they will not let an ambulance or anyone else past. the first time i saw this i wondered why they were not all arrested for blocking a critical transit route ( And this was no exaggeration or trumped up thing....f they blocked the highway for days. a few people died for kack of medical care)

Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by marshray »

icebraining wrote: post #72
sp332 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TFA recommends using VPN (which I assume has fewer restrictions than residential ISPs), or TOR (which has most of its outbound bandwidth on very large pipes which probably aren't filtered much).

TOR (which has most of its outbound bandwidth on very large pipes which probably aren't filtered much). TOR itself filters it: Also, remember that many of their more subtle communication mechanisms (like spoofed UDP packets) can't be used over Tor, because it only transports correctly-formed TCP connections. My guess is that they're just clueless.

I suspect they were planning to use Tor for command and control.

Odd that it was only a requirement for the Windows software though. Perhaps they script its installation on the Linux side.

Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by nitrogen »

frooby wrote: post #65
nicksuan wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience many ISPs do the exact opposite, and inflate cached TTLs up to a week. Makes migrations a pain in the ass.

Please prove this assertion by posting the address of a resolver that behaves as you describe.

There are more polite and productive ways of asking for proof of the phenomenon. Or, better yet, use Google the way it was meant to be used, and find out for yourself (just search for stories about DNS migration/propagation issues). People have documented visits to their old IP addresses for a very long time (much longer than the TTL) after updating their DNS with new IP addresses.

Re: Anonymous plans to take down the 13 root DNS servers that power the Internet?

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Post by necenzurat »

astrodust wrote: post #27
Hominem wrote: post #6

I'm pretty sure every hacker group has gotten this idea at one point or another. Has anyone even come close to taking down all the root DNS servers at once?

With Anycast DNS there's actually more than thirteen servers even if there's only thirteen IPs. It's going to be almost impossible to flood them all simultaneously. These are machines on multi-gigabit backbone connections, not some crappy back-water FBI or CIA web server.

FBI and CIA have posters not websites
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