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Re: EU Artificial Intelligence Act

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There was a great article on this recently that cuts through the EU’s dressing: EU AI Act To Target US Open Source Software https://technomancers.ai/eu-ai-act-to-target-us-open-source-... TLDR it imposes ridiculous constraints on github and open source developers

A much better analysis from a qualified researcher https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-ope...

Re: EU Artificial Intelligence Act

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That site has some questionalble views, for example https://technomancers.ai/pardon-elizabeth-holmes/

This seems like an ad hominem. Why not engage with the content of the artcicle before hand waving it away?

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Re: EU Artificial Intelligence Act

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> They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK. Really? Which startups flee due to GDPR? In my experience as a user, I now have option to download my data and know what's collected about me. I like it.

Most prominent recent heads-up was BionTech who decided to start a "Strategic Partnership" with the UK government for their research. [0] https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-det...

And this is connected to GDPR how exactly?

Companies do these things all the time, I guess it's fun to imagine that opening offices in other countries is fleeing and that are fleeing to UK because they are having trouble processing personal data when developing drugs but I don't see why would that be the case.

Fun fact: UK data protection laws are about the same as EU.

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We've been there with GDPR. It didn't help creating the level playing field they officially wanted to achieve. BigTech has law departments whilst local tech startups have to deal with legal battles initiated by third-class legal firms crawling the web. They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK.

> They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK. Really? Which startups flee due to GDPR? In my experience as a user, I now have option to download my data and know what's collected about me. I like it.

Oh they don't flee, they just don't bother to start new ones in the EU.

Which of the new AI labs is setup in EU?

Stability? Midjourney? Anthropic? Cohere? Every single one is either in the US or UK. LLM companies deal with huge legal uncertainties, especially around data and privacy. Hence investors are reluctant to fund any in the EU, and potential founders are deterred. This is all legacy of the GDPR and the 'regulatory superpower' mindset that the EU deluded itself into.

The only new wave AI company from the EU is DeepL, which is going to face really really intense competition from LLMs.

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I don't know, my impression is that this is written by someone who doesn't understand how law works and making hyperbolic assumptions through cherrypicking. I recall a similar panic and outrage when GDPR was introduced, claiming that it will bankrupt startups and small projects etc. The EU stuff is usually against large corporations who pose systematic risks. Think about how TikTok makes the US freak out about China…

We've been there with GDPR. It didn't help creating the level playing field they officially wanted to achieve. BigTech has law departments whilst local tech startups have to deal with legal battles initiated by third-class legal firms crawling the web. They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK.

I'm sure European startups like Plausible, Matomo, Nextcloud, which exist because of the GDPR or have gotten a huge boost from it agree with you.

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Why is everyone in a hurry to regulate AI? I can't think of one example where someone was harmed by an LLM. Besides "AI" is largely a marketing term, most software has "AI" elements and that has been the case for a while now, this thing has "unintended consequences" written all over it.

They're regulators. That's what they do. That's all they do.

No , it wasn't always like that. The EU has gone on overdrive lately but that's not because EU citizens asked for it. This is mostly brussels people regulating popular subjects because ... they want to be associated with things that are popular. There is really little else to explain what's happening in the EU in the past 5 years. As a citizen I am concerned by this "tyrranny from Brussels" because my opinion never seems to have mattered nor were EU citizens informed before the fact.

Re: EU Artificial Intelligence Act

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Why is everyone in a hurry to regulate AI? I can't think of one example where someone was harmed by an LLM. Besides "AI" is largely a marketing term, most software has "AI" elements and that has been the case for a while now, this thing has "unintended consequences" written all over it.

Power grab and preservation. This will be quickly approved to preserve existing players and power status quo (lawyers, managers and doctors don't want to be automated away).

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The quoted sentence is about training data, not about the output of the model, they're different things.

I wonder what "representative" means in relation to human behavior? does it mean "must collect ALL data"?

I have a feeling they might be looking for "equality" with this formulation. However, if it is representative of the real world, it will often not be in line with the norms prescribed by the notion of equality.

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> They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK. Really? Which startups flee due to GDPR? In my experience as a user, I now have option to download my data and know what's collected about me. I like it.

Oh they don't flee, they just don't bother to start new ones in the EU. Which of the new AI labs is setup in EU? Stability? Midjourney? Anthropic? Cohere? Every single one is either in the US or UK. LLM companies deal with huge legal uncertainties, especially around data and privacy. Hence investors are reluctant to fund any in the EU, and potential founders are deterred. This is all legacy of the GDPR and the 'regul…

Europe missing out in tech has much longer history than EU itself.

here is a quick watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZdmS-EAbHo

I have no idea why would you claim that with the introduction of GDPR Europe lost on tech. By tech I mean the SV industry, there are many other technologies out there.

Anyway, why all the "tech" is in SV? Do they have GDPR in the other states?

Re: EU Artificial Intelligence Act

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, my impression is that this is written by someone who doesn't understand how law works and making hyperbolic assumptions through cherrypicking. I recall a similar panic and outrage when GDPR was introduced, claiming that it will bankrupt startups and small projects etc. The EU stuff is usually against large corporations who pose systematic risks. Think about how TikTok makes the US freak out about China…

We've been there with GDPR. It didn't help creating the level playing field they officially wanted to achieve. BigTech has law departments whilst local tech startups have to deal with legal battles initiated by third-class legal firms crawling the web. They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK.

FYI, the UK has the same legislation as GDPR
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