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Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #447

What we expected License for me but not for thee Think of the children Building the moat

Sounds desperate now that open source models are quickly catching up without the woke mind virus.

> open source models

I read this as a try (conscious or not) to make them illegal.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nope, congress does not need to regulate AI. Not regulating the air quality we breathe for decades turned out amazing for millions of the Americas. Yes, lets do the same with AI! What could possibility go wrong?

I think this is a great argument in the opposite direction.. atoms matter, information isn’t. A small group of people subjugated many others to poisonous matter. That matter affected their bodies and a causal link could be made. Even if you really believe that somewhere in the chain of consequences derived from LLMs there could be grave and material damage or other affronts to human dignity, there is almost always a…

You ended up providing examples that have no matter or atoms: protecting jobs, or oversight of complex systems.

These are policies which are a purely imaginary. Only when they get implemented into human law do they get a grain of substance but still imaginary. Failure to comply can be kinetic but that is a contingency not the object (matter :D).

Personally I find good ideas on having regulations on privacy, intelectual property, filming people on my house’s bathroom, NDAs etc. These subjects are central to the way society works today. At least western society would be severely affected if these subjects were suddenly a free for all.

I am not convinced we need such regulation for Ai at this point of technology readiness but if social implications create unacceptable unbalances we can start by regulating in detail. If detailed caveats still do not work then broader law can come. Which leads to my own theory:

All this turbulence about regulation reflects a mismatch between technological, politic and legal knowledge. Tech people don’t know law nor how it flows from policy. Politicians do not know the tech and have not seen its impacts on society. Naturally there is a pressure gradient from both sides that generates turbulence. The pressure gradient is high because the stakes are high: for techs the killing of a new forthcoming field; for politicians because they do not want a big majority of their constituency rendered useless.

Final point: if one sees AI as a means of production which can be monopolised by few capital rich we may see a 19th century inequality remake. It created one of the most powerful ideologies know: Communism.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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I understand the idea behind it: the risks are high and we want to ensure that the AI can not be used for purposes that threatens the survival human civilization. Unfortunately, there is high probability that this agency will be abused from day one: instead of (or in addition to) focusing on the humanity's survival, the agency could be used as a thought police. The AI that allows for the 'wrongthink' will be banned.…

I mean, yeah, that sounds good. It wouldn't affect your ability to think for yourself and spread your ideas, it would just put boundaries on AI.

I've seen a lot of people completely misunderstand what chat GPT is doing and is capable of. They treat it as an oracle that reveals "hidden truths" or makes infallible decisions based on pure cold logic, both of which are completely wrong. It's just a text jumbler that jumbles text well. Sometimes that text reflects facts, sometimes it doesn't.

But if it has the capability to confidently express lies and convince the general public that those lies are true because "the smart computer said so", then maybe we should be really careful about what we let the "smart computer" say.

Personally, I don't want my kids learning that "Hitler did nothing wrong" because the public model ingested too much garbage from 4chan. People will use chatGPT as a vector for propaganda if we let them, we don't need to make it any easier for them.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Is this just to put up a barrier to entry to new entrants in the market so they can have a government enforced monopoly?

Why would OpenAI be worried about new entrants that are almost certainly too small to present a business threat? What regulation are they proposing that is actually a serious barrier to making a company around AI? If OpenAI just wants to prevent another OpenAI eating its lunch, the barrier there is raw compute. Companies that can afford that can afford to jump regulatory hurdles.

With browsers now able to access the GPU, its not long until you simply need to leave a website open overnight and help train a "Seti@HOME" for an open-sourced AI project.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Open AI lobbying for regulation on common people being able to use AI, isn't it wonderful.

I just cancelled my ChatGPT Plus subscription. I do not want to support monopolization of this technology. Companies apparently learned their lesson with the freedom of the Internet.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nope, congress does not need to regulate AI. Not regulating the air quality we breathe for decades turned out amazing for millions of the Americas. Yes, lets do the same with AI! What could possibility go wrong?

I think this is a great argument in the opposite direction.. atoms matter, information isn’t. A small group of people subjugated many others to poisonous matter. That matter affected their bodies and a causal link could be made. Even if you really believe that somewhere in the chain of consequences derived from LLMs there could be grave and material damage or other affronts to human dignity, there is almost always a…

> atoms matter, information isn’t

Algorithmic discrimination already exists, so um, yes, information matters.

Add to that the fact that you're posting on a largely American forum where access to healthcare is largely predicated on insurance, just.. imagine AI underwriters. There's no court of appeal for insurance. It matters.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #491

My gut feeling is that the majority of AI safety discussions are driven by companies that fear losing their competitive edge to small businesses. Until now, it's been challenging to grow a company beyond a certain size without employing an army of lawyers, human resources professionals, IT specialists, etc. What if two lawyers and an LLM could perform the same work as a legal department at a Fortune 500 company? The…

Regulation favors the large, as they can more easily foot the bill.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be, but it could also be because he is genuinely worried about the future impact of runaway capitalism without guardrails + AI.

Then the government should takeover OpenAI

Or end capitalism! One or the other!
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