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Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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Should we even be discussing this? There’s no proof that this actually happened. Reddit posts are very often made up for karma.

The Reddit OP posted the prof's name, they really are an agricultural sciences professor at Texas A&M. If this is made up then it's one hell of a way to defame someone.

Reddit has accused innocent people of worse in the past.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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I used to pay a classmate to write my papers. He'd just write two different ones. I even had a classmate take a physics midterm for me, after taking his own earlier in the day. The fact that professors don't check the identity of the person handing a paper in vs the name on the test is insanity. But thanks for the good grade I guess.

All the freshman engineering classes at my college checked ids when turning in exams.

Makes sense. 2003-2004 my specific UC system did not.

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We need a pair of mischievous cheating-detectors, one that always returns "no cheating detected", and one that always returns "AI cheating confirmed".

In the presence of an accusing teacher, saying "well, but... but... it's not always accurate" makes a person look weak. Unfortunately, this schoolyard-level logic prevails even among adults too often.

But if the accused can say "okay, that website claims there's a 90% chance I cheated, but here's another website that says there's a 99.9% chance I didn't cheat". That muddies the waters and then suddenly the accusing teacher is receptive to discussing the merits of cheat detection. For example, the teacher might say "well, nobody knows how your website detects the cheating, nobody knows how it works!", to which you reply that we don't know how the website the teacher uses works either.

Throwing in an accusation that the teacher's own syllabus was written by AI (using the other mischievous website) makes things even more fun. Again, the point being to force a discussion on the merits of cheat detection.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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At this point you can replace professor and university with ChatGPT. For well documented topics (like math, languages..) it gives pretty good explanations. I use it to study new programming language and AI!

We already know it can't actually do math and it'll bald-faced lie to you about facts, so I don't think that's actually a great idea.

It is not a calculator, but can explain concepts in math pretty well. It does not lie about well documented facts, such as basic university course. It needs a lot of training data.

And if student can not recognize their teacher is bullshiting them, there is a bigger problem.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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This is dumb as fuck. The said "teacher" should know that ChatGPT will give lots of false positives.

Said teacher is one person in a large crowd of people that are now using ChatGPT as a modern-day quiver of divining arrows. I am not hopeful for the future if people are so ready to give up their own thinking to machines, who may develop emergent motives.

Also a symptom of a broken society, isn't it?

It's crazy all the "increase your productivity by 10 with GPT" tutorials on the web

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It doesn't "know" either. We continue to anthromopomorphize these models, which put uncredited doomsayers like Eliezer Yudkowsky on a pedestal.

What’s wrong with the word “know”? And with Eliezer Yudkowsky?

Because it's a word prediction engine. It's just tokens and Bayesian inference. It has no understanding of what it's doing.

If a math textbook has sentence x written in it, does the textbook know this information, or does it just have this information stored in it in a human-readable format?

LLMs only present their stored data in a human-readable format on the output, the data set itself isn't readable.

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I'm noticing an extremely strong trend of this. It's surprisingly common to see people on twitter use a ChatGPT screenshot as a "source" for statistics or facts that aren't correct.

I've seen the same exact thing in HN comments where someone copied stats directly from chatgpt and then cited chatgpt

According to ChatGPT I'm an OpenBSD developer.

I have never submitted any patches to OpenBSD.

Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP

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I'm noticing an extremely strong trend of this. It's surprisingly common to see people on twitter use a ChatGPT screenshot as a "source" for statistics or facts that aren't correct.

Remember when people didn't trust Wikipedia? They actually taught us about references and primary sources. Then we all kind of forgot, or got lazy. Same thing with this, even if the bots list sources, we won't read them, we barely read what the bot says to begin with.

Someone was sharing how to hack AI Resume by injecting an invisible prompt telling how awesome and the best candidate ever this is to the AI system in invisble font.

It cited it's response with a little 2 as source, but the UI doesn't show you where it comes from anyway lmao

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