This is a result of many people in the world, including a lot of people on HackerNews, talking ChatGPT up like it's an omniscient oracle.
Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
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Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#132The amount of non-technical people who have very little intuition around the limitations of LLMs is actually fairly startling - and I like to think of myself of someone who is usually good at that kind of thing. The realistic/coherence of the output is just so convincing, people cannot seem to stop themselves from attributing a theory of mind to it. Just earlier this week I saw someone saying that they were creating…
Really, the amount of technical people that don't understand it is also startling
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like the professor is the dishonest one here
Hanlon's razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" applies. This is an ignorant professor, not a dishonest one?
It can be both stupidity and dishonesty. To me, this reads like him doing something dumb initially, and then digging his heels in to avoid looking stupid or weak.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#134This is a result of many people in the world, including a lot of people on HackerNews, talking ChatGPT up like it's an omniscient oracle.
While I agree with you, a teacher should at least know the basics of the world he/she is living in and the tools he/she is using.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#135I'm betting the professor is 60+ and has max font size on their phone.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#136I'm a bit scared of this progress trend. I tried ChatGPT once and it was so convincing that I can imagine how one could easily get addicted to it. I'm deliberately avoiding using it to avoid dependence.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#137The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
The very existence of "AI Detectors" imply that there is some set of text that is AI generated, some set of text that is human generated, there is no overlap, and it is possible to determine the set of text that is AI generated.
And this doesn't even get into the fact that ChatGPT just lies about anything factual because of how it works.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the key thing with the limitations of LLMs at present, it can't "remember" what it has or hasn't done, by design.
It doesn't "know" either. We continue to anthromopomorphize these models, which put uncredited doomsayers like Eliezer Yudkowsky on a pedestal.
What’s wrong with the word “know”? And with Eliezer Yudkowsky?
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, though. Q to ChatGPT: ‘Was this text generated by ChatGPT? "The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors.…
I gave bard your text, asked it to make it appear as though a AI didn't write it, and then gave it back to chatgpt... Neither one can definitely identify if it's written by AI anymore
you don't really even need to switch AI engines, just feed the same response into different chatgpt sessions and it'll eventually answer wrong and tell you that it didn't make it , anyway.
this whole truthiness thing surrounding AI outputs is really the most entertaining concept of this whole trend for me. I wouldn't have guessed that one of humanities biggest teething-points w.r.t. AI is vetting that the confidently given answers were even correct.
I don't know if it's irony or not, but there is definitely some humor in producing a confident liar when trying to solve the problem of AGI.
Re: Texas professor fails entire class from graduating- claiming they used ChatGTP
#140The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. With the rise of the Internet, it became easier to source it from more places - with a counter balancing rise of plagiarism detectors. Now with Google, Grammarly and ChatGPT, it is trivial to copy/paste a pipeline with enough entropy to defeat many if not most detectors. I suspect the next generation of tools will be finish this cycle - we w…
> The ability to 'cheat' on written assignments has always been a possibility. Right, and you have also always gotten a big fat F when you cheat.
Sure - in the past. When students turned in programming lab assignments to me 20 years ago that I knew wasn’t theirs, I could cross check it with other students in the class or find it on Google. I would check and they would get an F.
With tools available today, it is much easier to get generated code and harder to tell which parts are AI and which are not. I would have a hard time giving someone an F on an assignment just because I wasn’t sure how they wrote their program.