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The Greatest Wealth Transfer in History Is Here, with Familiar (Rich) Winners

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This is one of the silliest comments I’ve read on HN: it’s not fair to have successful parents that love you, therefore the government must step in and fix that.

They aren’t taxing love they’re taxing money. We always tax money when it transfers from one person or entity to another.

We should tax money to use it for love. Not love money to not use in anything else than private enjoyment.

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There a meritocracy argument in favor of inheritance tax. Those inheriting did not earn that wealth, therefore they should not receive it. Maybe instead there could be a lottery. Any wealth over some threshold (say $10M) is divided into $100k prizes and awarded to random citizens like a lottery.

This angle makes me think that we're going about the whole inheritance tax thing the wrong way. It's not the parent's estate that should be taxed. They have indeed earned all the money fair and square, and should be able to pass it on as they see fit. Instead, let's think about a tax on receiving inheritances. Limiting the money hose where the inequality actually happens, at the person that hasn't worked for the mone…

Just treat it like income. Doesn't matter when your parents gifted you the money, before or after they died, it's income received.

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Getting a leg up in life because your parents left you a big inheritance, is unfair to those who don't. There are many different types of fairness, not just one.

It's not "fair" that I'm only slightly above average height and will therefor never be an NBA star. It's not "fair" that I'm a competent musician at best -- far, far below professional level. Are you arguing that no one should be allowed to be a pro basketball player or musician? You should go read a story called Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.

The difference is the state cannot make you taller but can defend you against those that want to abuse their money against you.

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It's not "fair" that I'm only slightly above average height and will therefor never be an NBA star. It's not "fair" that I'm a competent musician at best -- far, far below professional level. Are you arguing that no one should be allowed to be a pro basketball player or musician? You should go read a story called Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.

Yes, it isn't fair that some people are taller than others, or more talented. The way we account for that is is not by outlawing behaviors. Rather, we levy progressive income taxes so that people who are lucky can help people who are less lucky. The most talented basketball players pay a large income tax that helps provide services to those who were not born lucky. I don't see why estate taxes are any different. It i…

Agree

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What’s the argument FOR an inheritance tax, when it comes to fairness? The person who’s passsing the money down already paid tax on the money, whether income tax or capital gains tax. The government already got a hefty chunk of that earned money. Why should it be taxed again? Especially when we see how inefficient the government is at spending money for the public good.

The money is gained on the backs of so many other people who helped make the infrastructure that made wealth accumulation possible. Taxes ideally pay for things that benefit enough of us, like roads, education, housing, and health care and sure, defense, since we're still combative and territorial humans.

Yeap

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The inheritors didn't earn it.

Neither did the government. Why shouldn’t the person who did earn it get to decide what happens to it? After all, they could choose to donate some to the government. No one does though, voluntarily, because we all know that money would get wasted.

The government doesn't own the money it uses it for the benefit of the rest of us

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Did you know that only the rich benefited in the pandemics with the amount of Rich being almost double worldwide? In troubled times the people with the most money benefit the most, that's why the state has to (or try to) level the playing field.

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Did you know that only the rich benefited in the pandemics with the amount of Rich being almost double worldwide? In troubled times the people with the most money benefit the most, that's why the state has to (or try to) level the playing field.

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The inheritors didn't earn it.

Neither did the government. Why shouldn’t the person who did earn it get to decide what happens to it? After all, they could choose to donate some to the government. No one does though, voluntarily, because we all know that money would get wasted.

The government provides physical and legal infrastructure that allows the person who made the money earn it. Society provides a market for whatever goods and services they sell, and collectively pay by suffering environmental and social externalities resulting from business activities.

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What’s the argument FOR an inheritance tax, when it comes to fairness? The person who’s passsing the money down already paid tax on the money, whether income tax or capital gains tax. The government already got a hefty chunk of that earned money. Why should it be taxed again? Especially when we see how inefficient the government is at spending money for the public good.

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These are mostly federal taxes. Not city/state. So public good as in the 800 billion defense spending, wars, etc?
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