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Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Unless you have a family back home to spend time with, extended work from home is not goof for your mental health.

Maybe not good for yours but it's been great for mine.

Same. And I'd much sooner spend time with coworkers than family. ;p

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#82

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Just responding only to open positions mentionning remote work or stating that you want remote only to the thousands of head hunters in linkedin is enough.

What if no headhunters in your area have jobs that offer remote work?

What does "in your area" really mean when looking for remote work?

Are you referring to speciality or geographic area? For some specialities, if the specialty doesn't have remote work (say it's robotics or biotech or something else with a heavy lab component), you might be out of luck. If it's geographic, well, find headhunters in another geography.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #74

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> Airbnb, Inc. can hire employees in states where we have registered entities. Currently, employees cannot be located/live in: Alaska, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Alabama, Mississippi, and Delaware. It seems entirely reasonable to create state entities in a late-binding fashion, only after you find an employee or other reason requiring the creation of an entity and all the recurring paperwork/expense associate…

Even though there is, today, half a dozen startups dedicated to solving just that (Deel comes to mind), yes, it definitely is reasonable. I just don’t appreciate people sanctimoniously dishing out lessons all while not applying what they, unprompted, decided to preach.

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Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #70

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I would agree with that. Except the guy touts the merits of hiring from anywhere. He seems to think he’s somehow better than all the others he criticises (I, personally, favour remote work. Just not holier-than-thou hypocrites). All while his very own company hires from anywhere. Except outside the US. Except in one state out of ten. If hiring people "from anywhere" is so great, and if even Basecamp can surmount the…

I'm still not sure I follow what said hypocrisy is supposed to be. The article is about how they have the ability to hire anywhere, which is true regardless if they currently hire everywhere or not. Similarly the quotes about traveling for the summer are not invalidated, you don't change residency if you go to e.g. Alabama for 2 months so it's not a problem it's on the list. While I agree places that allow anywhere w…

> “Are you more productive having people physically in an office together and then constraining who you hire to a 30-mile or a 60-mile commuting radius to the office? Or by allowing your team to be able to hire people from anywhere?” he asked.

From the linked "Airbnb CEO says the pandemic was the group’s ‘most productive’ two years ever, so now he’s making remote work permanent" [^1] (linked under "Airbnb made its “work from anywhere” policy permanent in April last year."):

> Today, we’re announcing that Airbnb employees can live and work anywhere.

[1]: https://fortune.com/2022/04/29/airbnb-ceo-remote-work-policy...

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#86

Unless you have a family back home to spend time with, extended work from home is not goof for your mental health.

I had great coworkers but they were not my friends. Saving 1-2 hour per day of commuting and using my breaks to do chores frees up time to see the people I chose to see.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just responding only to open positions mentionning remote work or stating that you want remote only to the thousands of head hunters in linkedin is enough.

What if no headhunters in your area have jobs that offer remote work?

Find better headhunters. They do work on commission

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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These remote-vs-office discussions where nobody discusses the actual work involved are fairly pointless. Disregarding the obvious scenarios of presence-required in order to work (i.e. manufacturing), the question applies: what is most productive for "information work"?

In my personal experience, I've found collaboration conducted face-to-face far more effective than doing so in a distributed/online way. There is a high level of context in these situations: the topic of discussion, the interactions among attendees, etc.

On the flip side, standard administrative operations that require nothing more than a terminal/shell? That's not collaborative, don't make those colleagues commute to a remote workstation.

But those employers who "feel their employees aren't so productive" when they aren't in-house -- huge signal they don't know how to really measure productivity.

What I've heard from other colleagues in management roles: the concern with remote work isn't about productivity, it's about _dedicated_ productivity coupled with zero trust. In other words, how do we (the employer) ensure our employees aren't moonlighting on our team and only giving the minimum level of effort with us?

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #78

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I’d be too busy tidying the house to avoid cleaning fees to do any nomadic work.

That’s not how cleaning fees work

that's right you pay this regardless, it's the quasi-discretionary things like not doing the laundry or turning on the dishwasher that get dinged for extra, just like a hotel.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#90

This is just code for outsourcing. Americans who are all-in on remote work should recognize this.

I think you probably meant to object to off-shoring (same company doing the work with employees in different country) rather than out-sourcing (different company doing the work). Out-sourcing from other countries has been happening at scale for decades. I agree that remote work pulls all of us (rather quickly) towards globalization. Overall, I think this is a good thing, even though people (like me) who temporarily b…

Good catch. I wasn’t aware of the difference in terminology.

From a neoliberal globalist perspective, I am happy with more globalization. I just think it’s strange that people tout remote work as shifting power toward employees and away from management, when in reality it’s the opposite.

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