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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Any type of charging generates heat. At any wattage, wireless charging at 70% efficiency will always generate more heat than fast charging at 95% efficiency. If you want to compare 5w wireless charging to 100w fast charging, even then it's not obvious the wireless charging is better, because it will still thermal throttle and stay throttled for longer, at least a few hours. Meanwhile fast charging will charge it to 8…

Well I don’t know, if people tested and don’t see any difference, wouldn’t that count as “debunked”? A quick internet research shows the Internet consensus is, wireless charging does not degrade batteries faster. At least it seems there is no empirical data proving otherwise, which at the very least would indicate the difference is small, if any. I think until I see (good) empirical data proving either of the theorie…

The more heat lithium ion batteries are subject to, the more they degrade.

For any given wattage, wireless charging will always generate more heat.

It really isn't more difficult than that. You don't need to be skeptical about physics.

I've already addressed in my first post the differences are likely marginal, as people get new phones within a few years anyways. Doesn't mean additional degradation didn't happen.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Well I don’t know, if people tested and don’t see any difference, wouldn’t that count as “debunked”? A quick internet research shows the Internet consensus is, wireless charging does not degrade batteries faster. At least it seems there is no empirical data proving otherwise, which at the very least would indicate the difference is small, if any. I think until I see (good) empirical data proving either of the theorie…

The more heat lithium ion batteries are subject to, the more they degrade. For any given wattage, wireless charging will always generate more heat. It really isn't more difficult than that. You don't need to be skeptical about physics. I've already addressed in my first post the differences are likely marginal, as people get new phones within a few years anyways. Doesn't mean additional degradation didn't happen.

I give up. I'm curious, you are clearly not.

Why does everyone seem to disagree with you?

Does the fact that the copper coil get hot instead of the battery itself have any influence?

Do you have empirical data?

Etc. Etc. Just some examples, from the top of my mind...

Re: Pixel Tablet

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> iPad is essentially useless as a shared family device - the UX of switching accounts inside apps is just terrible. What does "multiuser" mean to you? The traditional home PC was shared by everyone in the family, all using the same account. What do you accomplish by running multiple accounts on the iPad?

> all using the same account Never heard of this. Anyone I knew back in the days with a home PC always had an account for each family member. Multi account on PC is a long solved problem. Not sure why iPad still hasn't solved it after over a decade.

GP is probably older and remembers the more primitive home OS from DOS to Win98 and MacOS System N which didn’t have accounts.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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I wish there were standard software in Android and iOS to limit charge percentage and battery temperature during charging. It's ludicrous to me that the default behavior is plugging in your phone to a 30W ludicrously fast charger when you go to bed in the evening, where it then climbs to 100% charge and holds there while you sleep. I should be able to tell it I'd like it to reach 85% charge as of the time my alarm go…

> It's ludicrous to me that the default behavior is plugging in your phone to a 30W ludicrously fast charger when you go to bed in the evening, where it then climbs to 100% charge and holds there while you sleep. The Pixel line has adaptive charging, which is active when you have an alarm set, and times the phone to be fully charged by the time the alarm goes off. It's unfortunate this does not seem to be a default b…

It took me a while to learn that I should set a one-shot alarm before I put my phone on the charger.

This feature was not very discoverable, so I also wonder how much unnecessary wear and tear I put on my phone from having rapid charges at bed time before I discovered how to summon the adaptive charge cycle.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Yes. This is the problem with the tablet duopoly I looked very hard a two years ago for a high end tablet that I could put my own OS on. All I could find was the one by Pine64, and it was not "high end" I am typing this on an eight year old laptop I bought second hand at the start of COVID lock downs. Running Linux, it works pretty damn well. Why can I not get a tablet like that?

> Why can I not get a tablet like that? You can: https://pine64.com/product-category/pinetab/

For fun, I might.

But I need a high ed tablet. This one is deliberately not

No disrespect to Pine64, the design is not what I need

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Was very enthusiastic to check this out, but then >Resolution: 1280×800 pixels Yeah...I'm out. Even cheapo Android tablets now have 2000x1200 displays. I bought an ARM Windows tablet for 200 Euro and that has a 2880x1920 display. My eyes are grateful when reading text, not going back to displays reporting in inches per pixel. I'm really sad Intel pulled the plug on X86 Atom chips for tablets. It was super easy to boo…

There are rumors that Purism are also making a user-respecting tablet.

Interested.

Do not be a tease, what rumours?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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>It's not a filler in this context What is it supposed to be?

A textual version of a vocalization of doubt.

>A textual version of a vocalization of doubt.

Anytime someone opens a sentence in such a way, verbally, it rarely paints them in a positive light. It sounds snarky.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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There are rumors that Purism are also making a user-respecting tablet.

Interested. Do not be a tease, what rumours?

There is no specific info yet:

https://forums.puri.sm/t/h-k-s-purism-librem-16/20174/2

https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-6-look-ahead-wishlist/18694/...

Re: Pixel Tablet

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From people that use these sorts of terms in my life, it's an internal justification to make a new purchase, usually with a payment plan.

Hmm, if that were the case I would have just done it already. But no, I looked at the trade in value for it via Apple's exchange program, and they said...they would be happy to recycle it for me.

I’m not sure I understand. Is your definition of obsolete based on trade in value? What about resale value? What about functionality?
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