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Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by rsynnott »

mk67 wrote: post #30
pevey wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, truthfulness of a statement is an affirmative defense to libel/defamation, but believe it or not, that is not the case everywhere. Specifically, it is not the case in the UK.

Damn, that sounds insane. Is the UK the only country in the world with this? What is the reason?

As mentioned elsewhere, the UK does _not_ have this, but there are libel systems, generally old-fashioned ones, where truth is not an absolute defence (a couple of US states still have criminal libel laws where truth may not be an absolute defence, though use of these presumably wouldn’t be constitutional, say).

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by LegitShady »

raincole wrote: post #56
LegitShady wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

asrock hasn't been a subsidiary of ASUS for 20+ years, but its complicated because they're owned by Pegasus. Pegasus was created in a restructering of AsusTek, so its hard to say whether or not asus still owns them or not but at arms length. They're both companies that were spun off but the corporate structure is complicated.

Yes, you're right. My use of "subsidiary" might not be legally correct here. I meant ASUS founded ASRock and owned it.

and pegatron owns asrock, and asus is still the largest single shareholder in pegatron. so does asus own asrock? not entirely, not directly, but sort of.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by Throw73849 »

bastardoperator wrote: post #46
MrGilbert wrote: post #8

Asus is currently in a bad spot, as they released a BIOS update as Beta, which should address an issue where their boards would cause a CPU to explode. They did, however, leave the usual "this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty" disclaimer on, which currently backfires, as it seems as if Asus does not want to take responsibility. It is unknown if the statement was intentional , or just th…

You do understand that this drama is for enabling them to get more views? Dude literally has two side by side mountains of free asus gear and is crying. The white motherboard, he doesn't say he bought it, he says he "requested" it and goes on to cry that his request for free shit wasn't handled properly. I ended up blocking his channel because sensationalist BS on youtube needs to die.

This guy has way more credibility than regular gaming "journalists"!

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by LegitShady »

IX-103 wrote: post #60
LegitShady wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>working on removing the disclaimer This is a sentence on a website. If they wanted it would be gone in 5 minutes. You don't need to "work on it".

You clearly never have worked in a large company. Changing a simple word can take weeks before it even goes to the translation team. Changing a disclaimer involves legal so expect a month of committee meetings before anything new is proposed.

I work for an extremely large organization. All it takes is someone in higher levels to decide this has to be dealt with now. The working on it tells you that leadership doesn't really care.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by ziml77 »

borissk wrote: post #48
blagie wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is considered good right now? Asus was my go-to brand for quality, but I haven't looked in a decade or more. I'm glad to pay a modest premium for reliability. I'd like parts which are well-tested, use high-quality capacitors, and have basic safety features (like over-current / over-voltage protection on power supplies). What I'd really like is a review site which steps through the engineering of things like mothe…

MSI has by far the best BIOS team. AsRock has the best technical support.

That’s good to know. I had bad experiences with MSI hardware a decade ago so I didn’t go back to them. I will try their boards the next time I upgrade

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by DizzyDoo »

My dentist here in Canada has signs up that advertise that you get a free electric tooth brush if you leave a 5 star review on Google. I've not done that, it seems quite wrong, but I would imagine this is also very much against Google's policies? I was surprised how clear and obvious the signage was.

Seems to have worked though, the dentist's office has lots of 5 star reviews.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by tpmx »

Throw73849 wrote: post #63
bastardoperator wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do understand that this drama is for enabling them to get more views? Dude literally has two side by side mountains of free asus gear and is crying. The white motherboard, he doesn't say he bought it, he says he "requested" it and goes on to cry that his request for free shit wasn't handled properly. I ended up blocking his channel because sensationalist BS on youtube needs to die.

This guy has way more credibility than regular gaming "journalists"!

0.02 > 0.01

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by Khaine »

MrGilbert wrote: post #8

Asus is currently in a bad spot, as they released a BIOS update as Beta, which should address an issue where their boards would cause a CPU to explode. They did, however, leave the usual "this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty" disclaimer on, which currently backfires, as it seems as if Asus does not want to take responsibility. It is unknown if the statement was intentional , or just th…

This sounds exactly why software companies need to have strict liability. Can you imagine a hardware/software combo that blows up something you own is acceptable?

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Post by fuzzfactor »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #35
Veen wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be hard pushed to find a PR flack who does have "character".

Agree categorically.

Sometimes you need to be "honest" and admit how else are you going to get positive reviews anyway?
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