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Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It almost certainly (in the UK at least) would carry a high risk of a defamation claim for the people writing (or generating) them.

Defamation means lying. You can buy negative reviews of your competition where nobody lies. There are certainly a lot of interesting subtleties and implications here though.

The charge of defamation includes more than just lying.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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But it is legal. The obligation is on the reviewer to highlight they've been paid for a review, otherwise they are illegally misleading their readers. Whether that's moral is another thing.

I'm not so sure about that: > Don’t commission third parties to write fake reviews – you may be liable for their actions https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-reviews-an... With proper disclosure there may be some leeway, but I wouldn't just assume paying someone for a fake review is legal. UK advertising laws can be very strict in some cases (and rightfully so, in my opinion).

I don't know UK law, but at least in the US, there's a clear difference between "illegal" and "liable". There's a lot of stuff that's perfectly legal, but that I may be liable for.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defamation means lying. You can buy negative reviews of your competition where nobody lies. There are certainly a lot of interesting subtleties and implications here though.

The charge of defamation includes more than just lying.

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Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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It is of course not legal, but practiced by everyone nonetheless. I mean, even 20 years ago all "awards" and other nonsense were just paid, different award figurines from different "review" sites arriving with the same sender address... Like after 20 years on a dating sites one may forget that they were supposed to pretend that they were looking for the "true love", people can forget it here too... Not even sure these lies are a benefit to anyone anymore, like people aren't dumb. It's more of a ritual dance.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It almost certainly (in the UK at least) would carry a high risk of a defamation claim for the people writing (or generating) them.

Defamation means lying. You can buy negative reviews of your competition where nobody lies. There are certainly a lot of interesting subtleties and implications here though.

UK defamation laws are more like a religious inquisition than American defamation laws. You essentially have to prove your innocence.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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post #13

Asus used to be a great company run by great engineers, but in the last couple of years their motherboards have become terrible. By far the worst of the big 4.

Who is considered good right now? Asus was my go-to brand for quality, but I haven't looked in a decade or more. I'm glad to pay a modest premium for reliability. I'd like parts which are well-tested, use high-quality capacitors, and have basic safety features (like over-current / over-voltage protection on power supplies). What I'd really like is a review site which steps through the engineering of things like mothe…

I can only recommend TechPowerup, Tom's Hardware and Buildzoid for Motherboard stuff. Those are the ones I check out. I think TPU also has PSU review?

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It almost certainly (in the UK at least) would carry a high risk of a defamation claim for the people writing (or generating) them.

Defamation means lying. You can buy negative reviews of your competition where nobody lies. There are certainly a lot of interesting subtleties and implications here though.

In the US, truthfulness of a statement is an affirmative defense to libel/defamation, but believe it or not, that is not the case everywhere. Specifically, it is not the case in the UK.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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post #13

Asus used to be a great company run by great engineers, but in the last couple of years their motherboards have become terrible. By far the worst of the big 4.

Who is considered good right now? Asus was my go-to brand for quality, but I haven't looked in a decade or more. I'm glad to pay a modest premium for reliability. I'd like parts which are well-tested, use high-quality capacitors, and have basic safety features (like over-current / over-voltage protection on power supplies). What I'd really like is a review site which steps through the engineering of things like mothe…

Asrock was so annoyed being called out as "the mainboards to avoid", that they stepped up their game quite a lot. Their products are quite decent.

Re: Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defamation means lying. You can buy negative reviews of your competition where nobody lies. There are certainly a lot of interesting subtleties and implications here though.

In the US, truthfulness of a statement is an affirmative defense to libel/defamation, but believe it or not, that is not the case everywhere. Specifically, it is not the case in the UK.

Damn, that sounds insane. Is the UK the only country in the world with this? What is the reason?
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