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Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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You haven't seen much of the city, then. I live not far away, and functional cities do not have streets that look like what many of Baltimore's streets look like. And they don't have public schools were not a single student, out of hundreds, is meeting the minimum standards of proficiency

> functional cities do not have streets that look like what many of Baltimore's streets look like You may be experiencing a bit of proximity bias. Roads all over the north east are torn up. I'd argue the school district issue can be fixed, but it will take funding.

He's obviously not talking about the state of the road surface. Anybody who's spent much time in Baltimore, not just in the tourist areas, knows what I mean.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Lots of comments that didn’t read the article so here’s a good excerpt on why there’s a lawsuit. Baltimore’s lawsuit says the companies “failed to keep up with industry standards,” and claim it was a result of business decisions made to reduce costs and boost profits “notwithstanding decades of academic literature and research supporting the deterrent effects” of anti-theft technology. “The dramatically increased rat…

The headline literally matches the content of the article, even the quotes you posted. So saying that people "didn't read the article" is a strange claim.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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A reduction of 20% is most certainly significant.

What proportion of them are in prison for possession of small/personal amounts? And is imprisoning people who are smuggling/distributing hard and potentially very dangerous drugs really that controversial?

I have no idea, I don't live there. I'm responding to the assertion that 1/5 is not significant.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Would you care to elaborate what you believe this problem is, and how you've deduced it?

The poster wants to imply the population is black Americans even though similar ethnic groups in other countries don’t have nearly the same violent crime rates. Either there are structural factors at play or black Americans are somehow a specific distinct population from people of that diaspora around the world. This is where the analytical skepticism of people who insinuate these ideas tends to fall apart.

Ah. I had guessed as much, but figured that was an awful assumption to apply to someone. Now, looking at their post history, I see they also advocate for the idea that similar groups of people are less intelligent based on their skin color.

Truly disappointing.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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> functional cities do not have streets that look like what many of Baltimore's streets look like You may be experiencing a bit of proximity bias. Roads all over the north east are torn up. I'd argue the school district issue can be fixed, but it will take funding.

He's obviously not talking about the state of the road surface. Anybody who's spent much time in Baltimore, not just in the tourist areas, knows what I mean.

Then said commentator should obviously spend time writing with more clarity so their intended connotation is understood rather than using rhetoric that points to the state of the road surface. Anyone who's spent much time discussing and fixing real issues, rather than writing off whole cities as intractably broken, knows what I mean.

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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This used to be the "solution", except all it did was act as a gladiator academy that turned out more hardened criminals after 5 years. Do that every year and every year you are just working a machine to create crime. Turns out that just putting people in jail doesn't make society safer.

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so, we should be living the movie A Clockwork Orange?

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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Who's building a straw man? There's plenty of examples of exactly the scenario I mentioned happening. Deadly Crash Brings New Attention To Viral 'Kia Challenge' Trend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1laqHpw7A Robbins police: 3 teens in stolen Kia arrested after 71-year-old man dies in crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_QeFdPtus Teen killed, suspect on the run after stolen car crashes on Roosevelt Boulevard ht…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man You simply switched to an argument you could 'win' despite no one else actually bringing it up or refuting it.

I was giving an alternative analogy that would be closer to the situation. Only you may present analogies?

Re: Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts

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I almost had to sit for a jury trial. Guy stole things worth less than $950, was likely homeless, the prosecution took 22 months to build a case and failed to leverage a plea bargain, named about 30 law enforcement officers and/or forensics specialists as potential witnesses, and jury selection started with 100 citizens and took 4+ days, then the judge claimed it would take 6 weeks to try the case. The problem isn’t…

"and is far more harmful to society than the actual crime." I doubt the victims see it that way. If we just let people steal, it can turn into a runaway chain reaction due to a lack of consequences.

You imply that if you were the victim, watching such byzantine process to recover mere hundreds of dollars would feel satisfying to you?

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This is what I mean by strangely inconsistent demands for intellectual rigor. Not only does your summary of that article ignore that Central and South American countries with predominantly Latino populations dominate the top charts, but also it totally misses the actual point which is black Americans have higher crime rates than other countries with large numbers of black people which is a different claim than countr…

That's actually not true, we have American states that are 99% white and are a good test, they compare favorably to European states with the same demographics crime wise. (look at the north east)

Why isn't West Virginia, a dirt poor state that's almost fully white, a crime ridden state?

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