Last time I bought a Google device was a Pixel C end of 2016 as present for my dad. It was supported up to Android 8, released in 2017, and then Google decided this device was obsolete and would never get the next Android release. I am done with Google hardware. I bought my dad an iPad Mini since, as a replacement, I sure it will be updated for much longer.
Pixel Tablet
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#492Last time I bought a Google device was a Pixel C end of 2016 as present for my dad. It was supported up to Android 8, released in 2017, and then Google decided this device was obsolete and would never get the next Android release. I am done with Google hardware. I bought my dad an iPad Mini since, as a replacement, I sure it will be updated for much longer.
It turns out the expected security support for android devices is only 3 years, so if you buy an older device it’s lifespan could be super short. Seems wild to me given apples support length is 5 years. https://9to5google.com/2019/08/09/google-pixel-c-update/#:~:... .
Note that major OS updates != security updates.
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#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
> thoroughly debunked. I wish people would stop using this phrase. Especially when they couldn't be more wrong. Heat degrades batteries, wireless charging generally comes with more heat from the lower efficiency. But at the end of the day it most likely won't matter as people get new phones every few years anyways.
But fast charging makes batteries very hot too. Btw, you basically just asked people to know when they are wrong. Seems very optimistic...
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#494Earlier quoted context omitted.
> thoroughly debunked. I wish people would stop using this phrase. Especially when they couldn't be more wrong. Heat degrades batteries, wireless charging generally comes with more heat from the lower efficiency. But at the end of the day it most likely won't matter as people get new phones every few years anyways.
There are so many more factors than heat though For one, I thought charging slower was better, so could the increased heat be offset by that? Also, it's more heat per joule transferred, but over a longer period of time, is that not better than sudden heat from fast charging?
The constant current phase of fast charging does not generate much heat in comparison at given wattage as it's able to charge up your phone much more quickly at higher efficiency until it switches to trickle charging at ~80%.
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Mostly the extra heat degrades the battery chemistry
Perhaps this is an issue with a particular charger? I've yet to notice my phone get warm when charging wirelessly.
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#496Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem. There's one exception: Lenovo's last gen pro tablet got a small refresh. It's the "Lenovo P11 Pro Gen 2" and it's absurdly affordable compared to the competition right now (~$270). It's got a 120hz OLED display, great general-purpose performance (my previous tablet experience was Samsung's budget S6 Lite, which was…
The specs are nice on paper but even at 60Hz and minimal brightness, the battery on my brand new one barely lasts 2-3 hours when just using the browser. It'll even drain completely if I leave it on standby for a few days. There's also a serious red tint to the screen [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/zmht0j/lenovo_p11_p...
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#497Is this the first mainstream tablet without an audio jack?
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As a rule me and my family don't use devices that don't get software updates. As soon as they're not patching it the devices as good as dead to us. The most we will do with it is play video games on it. Even my very computer illiterate parents understand this well.
Seems extreme since app updates regularly still happen?
Anything that gets passwords, a means of authentication, or touches accounts with money needs to get all of its updates. Otherwise it's an entertainment device. So, Netflix, and video games. I've been meaning to get around to dropping honey pot crypto wallets on the devices.
Now I learned about this... https://honeypot.is/
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I would argue it still is, because I am sure most Android apps still supports Android 9. Google is also much more serious about backward compatibility than Apple, and go a long way to make sure that Android APIs has backwards compatibility between multiple versions of it, see https://developer.android.com/topic/libraries/support-librar... and https://developer.android.com/jetpack/androidx . So as long your device is…
The original poster just said that some apps required the latest OS. iOS 16 supports all phones back to the iPhone 8/X released in 2017. > This is very different from iOS that once it stops receiving updates, you're pretty much screwed up. Apple just released a security patch for the iPhone 5s January of this year. It was released September 2013. It was the first 64 bit iPhone and the first that supported LTE. Is Goo…
Yes, of course there is a small number of apps that will need the latest OS, because they're trying to do something new that is not possible before etc. This is not true for 99% of the apps that you use though, and is specially not true for apps used by the mass market like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/your bank because you would be crazy to only support a small % of your user base.
Also keep in mind that this is valid for both iOS and Android (bigger publishers generally support older versions of iOS because there are folks that will never upgrade/their devices doesn't support the latest version).
> Apple just released a security patch for the iPhone 5s January of this year. It was released September 2013. It was the first 64 bit iPhone and the first that supported LTE. Is Google or any Android manufacturer doing security updates for a phone released in 2013?
I still used my 10 year old tablet (LG G Pad 8.3) a few years ago because even if it didn't had the latest security updates, because at least my browser was up-to-date. Keep in mind that I wouldn't do anything security critical on it, but it is still arguably more useful than a iPhone 5s that should be using an ancient version of WebKit (so a good portion of the Web is broken on it probably).
BTW, before you ask why I stopped using the tablet: it finally broke after all those years.
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#500I am not really am Apple person, but I always wondered why the iPad is almost always better priced or in the same range as Android tablets when they are clearly better. At the same time I have an Android phone and don't know why a comparable iPhone is 2x the price. Not saying this is a bad tablet, and I like my Pixel phone, but if they will fight the iPad they need to be competitive on pricing and this isn't, especia…
Because people are willing to pay it. I also think it's worth looking at the lifespan of an Apple device compared. Lots of chatter on these threads about iPads getting release updates for years following release, where Pixels get 18 months if they're lucky. I am content spending 2x the price on a device if I can keep it for 2x+ years.