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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by mook »

hbn wrote: post #26
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there was the Pixel C in 2015. It was Android based and went nowhere. Then there was the Pixel Slate in 2018. It was Chrome OS based, and also went nowhere. If you bought a Pixel Slate, a new Google tablet has been five years in the making. Except that the Pixel Tablet isn't really a replacement. It's back to Android, and this time, no keyboard or pen options in sight.

Google has no long-term strategy for tablets. Best I can tell, every few years some product owners get together to once again do Google's Big Push For Tablets For Real This Time We Swear and the initiative goes until they get their promotions and then it's forgotten until the next round a few years later. If you buy this tablet and like it, don't expect a successor. They'll release something completely unrelated in a…

I'm hopeful that they'll somewhat keep the tablet form factor working because it'll be used when a foldable device is open; it's just a bit bigger.

I'm not hopeful enough to go buy a tablet, however.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by shawabawa3 »

stevenhuang wrote: post #235
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source? I thought this has been thoroughly debunked.

> thoroughly debunked. I wish people would stop using this phrase. Especially when they couldn't be more wrong. Heat degrades batteries, wireless charging generally comes with more heat from the lower efficiency. But at the end of the day it most likely won't matter as people get new phones every few years anyways.

There are so many more factors than heat though

For one, I thought charging slower was better, so could the increased heat be offset by that? Also, it's more heat per joule transferred, but over a longer period of time, is that not better than sudden heat from fast charging?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by shawabawa3 »

rendaw wrote: post #266
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

Are charging docks not a way to avoid EU regulations around standardizing/unbundling charging cables?

You have to include USB-C charging but that doesn't mean you can't use other charging methods (like the new Macbooks that have magsafe and USB-C)

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by jdofaz »

usernew wrote: post #270
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

here's the thing with wireless charing - and this may not apply to your use case. when you're plugged in, you're running on the cable. my laptop for example, which I set to charge to 80% and stop, is pretty much always plugged in unless I'm carrying it between rooms. my phone - an android phone - has always been plugged in to charge. the battery acts as a surge protector. now what happens when you wireless charge. yo…

what phone?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by jkaplowitz »

pphysch wrote: post #180
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

It's quite fascinating. Apple ships their tablet with a stylus, while Google ships theirs with a charger-speaker-dock. Apple is saying "this is for the creatives" while Google is saying "this is a home console".

I think Google is trying to compete with Amazon Echo Show for this device, not with Apple iPad.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by p_l »

ianai wrote: post #210
mkozlows wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nexus 7 is from 2012 or 2013, depending on which one you have.

And they did it very dirty after a very short time. I had one, loved it, felt burned by google after they abandoned it. I guess they thought it was going to eat into the huge phone segment.

Nexus 7 experience was positively stellar compared to Nexus 10 or Nexus 9...

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by tehbeard »

Teslazar wrote: post #176
chrysoprace wrote: post #156

As someone who generally likes the Pixel line of phones (not a fanboy; I just enjoy the stock+ android experience), I'm sceptical of the support on this tablet. My old Nexus tablet (I think it's the Nexus 7) is generally useless beyond basic offline usage because it doesn't get OS updates any more. Given the price, it's going to be a hard thing to justify at AUD$899 if it's going to be a security liability after 2028…

I agree with the sentiment that the devices aren't being supported for long enough but thought I'd mention that you can install LineageOS on a Nexus 7 and get OS and software updates. According to Google, Pixel tablets will get "software version updates for at least 3 years" and "Pixel security updates for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the U.S." ( https://support.…

Lineage may have worked a few years after release. But in the 2020s the old nexus tablet is just too outdated. Can no longer play even YouTube videos well :(

Got a cheap fire tablet to replace it. At some point I'll look at switching that to lineage to get out of Amazon's weird launcher and app store.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by creshal »

ehsankia wrote: post #82
dabernathy89 wrote: post #25

Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem. There's one exception: Lenovo's last gen pro tablet got a small refresh. It's the "Lenovo P11 Pro Gen 2" and it's absurdly affordable compared to the competition right now (~$270). It's got a 120hz OLED display, great general-purpose performance (my previous tablet experience was Samsung's budget S6 Lite, which was…

> for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem Yet after over a decade, iPads still don't support multiple profiles for a device that's very often used in a household by multiple people. Something that this very first generation Pixel Tablet does.

OTOH, I'm still waiting for any pen-enabled Android apps that manage to catch up with XP Tablet PC Edition 2004 in terms of usability and feature set, let alone anything made for iPads (or Windows 8/10/11). Even desktop Linux is doing fractionally less worse.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by creshal »

arvinsim wrote: post #188
dabernathy89 wrote: post #25

Android tablets generally feel overpriced right now for what they offer compared to Apple's ecosystem. There's one exception: Lenovo's last gen pro tablet got a small refresh. It's the "Lenovo P11 Pro Gen 2" and it's absurdly affordable compared to the competition right now (~$270). It's got a 120hz OLED display, great general-purpose performance (my previous tablet experience was Samsung's budget S6 Lite, which was…

I wonder if there is a cheaper portable monitor version of that tablet.

Lenovo has the M14 series of portable monitors, which is fairly cheap.
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