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Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by magnusstaberg »

lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

What’s the reasoning of once every week and not every day? If you take every day it can be a weaker pill.

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Post by salad-tycoon »

avgDev wrote: post #122
lynx23 wrote: post #85

It took me a long time, and virtually no help from outside, to discover that vitamin D effectively cures my winter depression. I was never really feeling good around that time of the year, but it wasn't problematic enough to actually do something about it. But when my gut started to revolt around that time too, I started to feel distinctly unwell. So I went to my doctor, who gave me an approintment with a nutrition s…

I had discovered something similar. I've had some nerve issues after a medication. First, my physicians were in complete denial that it was impossible. Then, I had to push them for tests. This includes Mayo clinic. It wasn't until I learned about neurological diseases and tests myself until I found the tests I needed. Then I had to search for a physician willing to listen. Ended up finding a neurologist at a Universi…

Could you share more information on pirenzepine? Maybe from the chemist conversation and/or a dependable Japanese source?

Never heard of it, just looking into it now.

> It has forever changed my perspective on physicians.

Well, when all the administrators of healthcare systems laud how they practice strict evidence based medicine, it leads one to wonder what the additional benefits are and to whom.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by avgDev »

salad-tycoon wrote: post #242
avgDev wrote: post #122

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I had discovered something similar. I've had some nerve issues after a medication. First, my physicians were in complete denial that it was impossible. Then, I had to push them for tests. This includes Mayo clinic. It wasn't until I learned about neurological diseases and tests myself until I found the tests I needed. Then I had to search for a physician willing to listen. Ended up finding a neurologist at a Universi…

Could you share more information on pirenzepine? Maybe from the chemist conversation and/or a dependable Japanese source? Never heard of it, just looking into it now. > It has forever changed my perspective on physicians. Well, when all the administrators of healthcare systems laud how they practice strict evidence based medicine, it leads one to wonder what the additional benefits are and to whom.

Here is the company trying to get the cream to the market: http://winsantor.com/

I think this was a post by him, however, cannot confirm as the user has been deleted. https://www.reddit.com/r/smallfiberneuropathy/comments/attfx...

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by kadoban »

BeetleB wrote: post #230
kadoban wrote: post #217

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> Let's say the doctor prescribes a certain dosage per day. How will the doctor know it is helping this particular patient? Check on them in X weeks and see if they're improved, and maybe measure blood levels just to get some objective measurement going. Doesn't seem too terribly hard. I think I'm missing the issue.

The issue is that for most issues where people claim Vitamin D helps, X is very large (several years). If your goal is cancer prevention, this approach is virtually useless unless done in large groups. Other than bone issues, I don't think Vitamin D works for anyone in the short term. For a few people, they see improvements in mood within a few weeks or months. Most of these few people regress afterwords even with Vi…

Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it. Yeah I was not considering chronic issues.

> I'm all for trying, and I do try different things. The reason I go to the doctor is to get an expert and informed opinion. If his opinion is "the data on Vitamin D is poor", I want him to state that.

That would certainly be wonderful. I've never had a doctor who would be that honest, though I'm sure they exist.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by mawadev »

Can I just point out how nearly every website tells a different story about whether daily Vitamin D intake is either good, necessary or toxic? It's so confusing to read so much text that contradicts itself, contradicts other sources or outright paints a bad image.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by robertlagrant »

lynx23 wrote: post #231
nradov wrote: post #198

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Western medicine is one of the primary drivers of global life expectancy increases only though vaccines, antibiotics, and trauma care. Other than that it has had very little effect: we could eliminate all other forms of medical care and average life expectancy would decrease only marginally. Public sanitation and food safety enforcement have had much larger effects. Where western medicine has had larger effects is in…

Thanks for saying that, I couldn't agree more. If you break your leg, western mdeicine is great. For almost everything else, it fails pretty miserably because doctors have effectively no time to actually care for an individual. If it isn't done in 5 minutes, things are getting complicated.

This is just not true at all. E.g. in the UK 10 times as many babies died in 1950 as do today[0]. I cannot believe with all the incredible efforts and advances the medical, scientific, pharmaceutical and manufacturing and logistics fields have made, it's reduced to "this is only good if you break your leg".

[0] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/inf...

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by atwebb »

kpw94 wrote: post #90
atwebb wrote: post #43

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Would especially sunny areas not produce people with more cancer (or certain types)?

https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/styles/x_... Sunnier areas have less skin cancers, if that's what you were wondering. Now is it because of the Vitamin D, or because of a more systemic application of sunscreen?

Late reply, I was wondering that but also, at least in the US, they tend to have older folks and retirees so that it may skew the stats. I really don't have any data on it, just speculating.

Re: Reduced cancer mortality with daily Vitamin D intake

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Post by AlecSchueler »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #197
timeon wrote: post #46

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Good thing about farm-raised fish is that it is less contaminated, because it is usually mostly plant-fed. But it also makes it less nutritious.

Depends on what materials one classifies as a “contaminant”.

Also, they might be "mostly" plant fed but a big part of their diet is made up of wild fish!
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