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Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#41
If I can make a UI suggestion, please consider making the word list fully visible and remove the overflow. It's fun to go the long way and see all my entries. I just completed the daily with 9 added words :)

In the instructions, I'd also make it a bit more clear what does it take to win the game. Like "Keep adding words until all words are similar by more than 20%"

Kudos for building the game, I hope it gains some traction.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#42

I got ocean->radio My path: Ocean-> waves -> amplitude -> radio Solution path: Ocean -> air —> radio It seems odd that waves could be less closely related to radio than air. I wonder if there’s some homonym issue with wave or something like that? Edit: Similarly, I got a random puzzle: Heat -> Bar “Pressure” seams like it ought to be a good guess. But apparently Heat and pressure are 29% related (ok! Seems reasonable…

I got the same ocean->radio How is 'waves' not a qualifying word?

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#43
I was delighted to see this--thanks for posting it. Games like this (and Semantle, etc.) have a surprisingly long history. The TikTok #gotitchallenge [0] shows one way to play in person, also demonstrated by the vlogbrothers [1]. But there was also a 19th C. parlor game called "What is My Thought Like?" [2] in which players had to make semantic connections between two random words or phrases, and that is basically the same game as "Le Jeu de la pensée" [3][my English translation 4], ca. 1701, which is an extended version with additional random features players have to connect to a random word

[0] https://www.tiktok.com/tag/gotitchallenge

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyx8iMKYrE8

[2] https://www.google.com/books/edition/American_Girl_s_Book/WO...

[3] https://www.google.com/books/edition/Les_jeux_d_esprit_ou_La...

[4] https://wobbupalooza.neocities.org/1701#tr_60

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#44
post #35

I put waves for radio and ocean and got 19% and 55%. Is my expectation that the first percentage should be higher off?

I also did waves. I needed amplitude to bridge the gap to radio.

I also had a random one:

Heat -> bar

I went with pressure, since it is related to heat obviously, and a bar is a unit of pressure. But it didn’t like the second one.

I wonder if there’s a homonym issue, or if I just don’t understand word embeddings.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#45
post #35

I put waves for radio and ocean and got 19% and 55%. Is my expectation that the first percentage should be higher off?

I literally just did the exact same. I'm totally unmotivated by this game if this kind of connection isn't what it is looking for.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#46

I got ocean->radio My path: Ocean-> waves -> amplitude -> radio Solution path: Ocean -> air —> radio It seems odd that waves could be less closely related to radio than air. I wonder if there’s some homonym issue with wave or something like that? Edit: Similarly, I got a random puzzle: Heat -> Bar “Pressure” seams like it ought to be a good guess. But apparently Heat and pressure are 29% related (ok! Seems reasonable…

I got the same ocean->radio How is 'waves' not a qualifying word?

I don’t know… in particular, I don’t really have a good intuition for word embedding closeness at all.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#47
post #21

See also https://enlinko.com/ . The calculations here are snappy. I do not know which one was created first. "Relatedness" here is according to ... something ... Approximately but not exactly the likelyhood that words appear near to one another in a large corpus of text. Probably doing lookups on something crunched by google books.

Hello,

Thanks for posting about Enlinko. I'm author of it, i've published it 24 days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35630451

Domain for this game has been created 9 days ago. So, i think someone was heavily inspired by my idea.

I understand that anyone can make game with same idea, but i'm bit sad that Enlinko haven't got such traction on HN as this game.

As for relatedness, my game uses semantic vectors from this model https://github.com/commonsense/conceptnet-numberbatch

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#48
Hello,

I'm author of https://enlinko.com/ game, published it 24 days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35630451

Domain for this game has been created 9 days ago. So, i think someone was heavily inspired by my idea.

I understand that anyone can make game with same idea, but i'm bit sad that Enlinko haven't got such traction on HN as this game.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#49

I got ocean->radio My path: Ocean-> waves -> amplitude -> radio Solution path: Ocean -> air —> radio It seems odd that waves could be less closely related to radio than air. I wonder if there’s some homonym issue with wave or something like that? Edit: Similarly, I got a random puzzle: Heat -> Bar “Pressure” seams like it ought to be a good guess. But apparently Heat and pressure are 29% related (ok! Seems reasonable…

Same here. I just concluded that this is probably not that well implemented.

Re: Unrelated Words Puzzle

#50

I got ocean->radio My path: Ocean-> waves -> amplitude -> radio Solution path: Ocean -> air —> radio It seems odd that waves could be less closely related to radio than air. I wonder if there’s some homonym issue with wave or something like that? Edit: Similarly, I got a random puzzle: Heat -> Bar “Pressure” seams like it ought to be a good guess. But apparently Heat and pressure are 29% related (ok! Seems reasonable…

Same here. I just concluded that this is probably not that well implemented.

I bet it is a good implementation of word vectors. I just have no intuition for how word vectors work (does the presence of homonyms which are far from the pairing result in a less close pairing, for example?)
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