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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by lloeki »

qup wrote: post #386
worik wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. This is the problem with the tablet duopoly I looked very hard a two years ago for a high end tablet that I could put my own OS on. All I could find was the one by Pine64, and it was not "high end" I am typing this on an eight year old laptop I bought second hand at the start of COVID lock downs. Running Linux, it works pretty damn well. Why can I not get a tablet like that?

I got a surface tablet. The one that just runs normal windows. I'm not a Windows user normally, but it's the best "tablet" OS by far IMO. You can get WSL, and honestly I would be surprised if you can't install Linux on it, but I haven't actually checked.

> high end tablet that I could put my own OS on

with that requirement I would concur, Surface (Intel) seems to be the best bet, although last time I checked (which was a couple of years ago) full support was spotty depending on generation.

Maybe someone else can chime in with feedback about getting Linux on there?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by byhemechi »

indigomm wrote: post #8

US Price: $499 UK Price: £599 I get that technology companies don't just directly convert USD at the appropriate exchange rate, but this is ridiculous. Especially as the conversion rate they used on the Pixel Fold is 1 USD = 1 GBP.

it's actually insane, obviously this isn't google but it is actually cheaper for me to fly from prague to the US, buy a new macbook and fly back than it is for me to buy one locally. It makes absolutely no sense

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by krger »

makeitdouble wrote: post #305
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

Apple isn't good at charging. There's a lot of aspect they excel, graphic design, ergonomics, material etc. Charging has never been their forte. I present as evidence: - the original humongous 31 pin ipod cable - the harpooned mouse - the wireless charging mat they never could deliver - the first Apple pencil (and its usb-c charging cable...) - their previous gen desktop keyboards charging over lightning Their only g…

>- the original humongous 31 pin iPod cable

The first two iPod models had a 6-pin FireWire port. It wasn't until the third generation that they introduced the 30-pin connector that worked with both FireWire and USB on the PC side to introduce Windows compatibility.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by layer8 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #341
grumpyprole wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is FUD. Samsung promise 5 years of security updates and 4 OS updates: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standar...

It's not FUD. Apple has _delivered_ updates for multiple generations of devices for 5+ years. Samsung has promised to update for 4 OS versions. They haven't delivered anything yet. We'll see in 2027 if they can actually deliver.

This topic will probably resolve itself from 2025 on when the EU will start requiring 5 years of software updates.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by jahnu »

hackernewds wrote: post #379
kentiko wrote: post #364

Last time I bought a Google device was a Pixel C end of 2016 as present for my dad. It was supported up to Android 8, released in 2017, and then Google decided this device was obsolete and would never get the next Android release. I am done with Google hardware. I bought my dad an iPad Mini since, as a replacement, I sure it will be updated for much longer.

my ipad 2018 is pretty obsolete already. it can't be updated due to speed and hardware issues, and most apps won't work on the old os

How is that? I have a 2014 iPad Air 2 and while it didn't get the very latest major update it is still getting security and bug fix minor updates for iPadOS 15. And not only that it's still working great and very usable!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPadOS_15#Releases

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by ho_schi »

Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax?

And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources.

Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by bierjunge »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #372
lostlogin wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they? There have been two iPhone charge cables, and the original was the iPod charger. How many have been used by other companies? That mouse charger is ludicrous. Worst apple design ever?

The fact that there are multiple charge cables shows how good Apple is at charging .

Apple is great at charging? No, they are not. I have a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i9. When working, the i9 pretty much gets throttled down to the performance of an i5 because the thermal design is terrible, but it's a different story. But even when the CPU get throttled down, my battery gets discharged while being connected to the most performant Apple charger (96W). An no, the laptop is not faulty, I can reproduce it with a second Macbook with exactly the same specs.

And when I'm not using the original Apple charger, because I have a nice monitor with PD over USB-C, the Macbook regularly refuses to charge, not always, but every single time when I need it to charge. No other device has any issues with the monitor (tested with a Acer R13 Chromebook, Pixel 6 phone, Lenovo/Dell/Acer/Asus laptops, Lenovo Yoga Tab 13 Tablet, Steam Deck, etc.)

Edit: PD output of the monitor is also at ~96W

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by radiospiel »

ho_schi wrote: post #396

Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax? And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources. Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.

european prices typically include VAT, US prices don’t

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by davidy123 »

ho_schi wrote: post #396

Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax? And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources. Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.

The dock is a main feature of this device. You can even buy additional docks to place around the house for charging/speakers. If you don't need the dock, I guess it's not for you (though maybe they will release a dockless version later… and reduce the price). And unless you are really into the Google ecosystem (which can be compelling, but also annoying when they abandon products or gut them) it's not well priced in any market if you're just looking for a tablet.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by 76SlashDolphin »

radiospiel wrote: post #398
ho_schi wrote: post #396

Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax? And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources. Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.

european prices typically include VAT, US prices don’t

But even with US sales tax there's a big mark-up in the EU. Meanwhile, the Pixel 7a is the same price as the tablet in the US but significantly cheaper in the EU. Really odd pricing.
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