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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by theshrike79 »

grumpyprole wrote: post #308
theshrike79 wrote: post #302

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And iPads get about 5 years of major version updates. The 600€ high end Samsung will maybe get one Android OS update.

This is FUD. Samsung promise 5 years of security updates and 4 OS updates: https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-sets-the-new-standar...

It's not FUD. Apple has _delivered_ updates for multiple generations of devices for 5+ years.

Samsung has promised to update for 4 OS versions. They haven't delivered anything yet. We'll see in 2027 if they can actually deliver.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by indigomm »

grardb wrote: post #330
pmontra wrote: post #322

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Wow, it's $499 in the USA.

Before tax. Typically, European prices include VAT. If you remove the VAT from the Dutch price, you'd end up with about €561. Especially when taking into account the currency conversion, it's still definitely cheaper in the US, but the difference is less exaggerated when you take taxes into account.

Googles pricing doesn't make sense when you compare it to themselves.

Pixel 7a: $499 or £449. At current rates, the 7a works out cheaper in the UK - it should be £480 inc. VAT.

Pixel Tablet: $499 or £599. The US price for the tablet is the same as the 7a, so you would expect it to be £449 in the UK. Even if they just did a straight currency conversion and added VAT, it would be £480. So £599 is extortionate.

Pixel Fold: $1,799 or £1,749. This is the one that is actually about right. It would be £1,723 on currency conversion and VAT, so £1,749 is alright.

Of course there is also the cost of doing business in Europe. But the fact is that comparing Google's own product line with itself just shows that the pricing doesn't make sense.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by sofixa »

grardb wrote: post #330
pmontra wrote: post #322

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Wow, it's $499 in the USA.

Before tax. Typically, European prices include VAT. If you remove the VAT from the Dutch price, you'd end up with about €561. Especially when taking into account the currency conversion, it's still definitely cheaper in the US, but the difference is less exaggerated when you take taxes into account.

> Typically, European prices include VAT

Small nitpick - not typically, _always_ outside of b2b settings where they're provided with and without VAT (because depending on certain criteria, some companies don't pay VAT when buying). It's mandatory for prices to be all things included, not the American bullshit of only $300 (before this tax, that tax, "gratuity", fee for that, fee for that other thing, so actually the total is $600).

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by nsteel »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #216
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #69

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I wish there were standard software in Android and iOS to limit charge percentage and battery temperature during charging. It's ludicrous to me that the default behavior is plugging in your phone to a 30W ludicrously fast charger when you go to bed in the evening, where it then climbs to 100% charge and holds there while you sleep. I should be able to tell it I'd like it to reach 85% charge as of the time my alarm go…

I have a dell XPS laptop where thia feature is configurable in the BIOS

Is there some way to quickly override it so you get 100% charge ASAP? Or do you have to go into the bios and mess about?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by simonh »

pmontra wrote: post #323
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

What's great with charging docks? I charge with several chargers hanging from sockets all around the house. If I had only a charging dock I would have either to carry it were I need to charge my tablet while I'm using it or move myself to the dock.

I agree the dock as the only way to charge seems daft, but I suppose they expect everyone to have a USB-C charging cable for their phone already, and use that on the go. Most Android phone owners will, and I suppose this is aimed at them.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by simonh »

nindalf wrote: post #287
Freedom2 wrote: post #279

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>If there's a trove of apple users somewhere that have strong opinions about Android phones Is using /r/apple cheating? ;) To be clear, I envy Apple's long-term support for their products and no one can deny the fantastic build quality. I know that MacBooks can occasionally get some dislike here, but I genuinely really like the few I have, aside from my butterfly keyboard one, which is the odd child of the bunch. The…

I don’t think /r/apple is representative of the general population any more than any other fan subreddit. The median apple customer bought their device and didn’t think about it as long as it continued working. Meanwhile that subreddit draws who make apple a part of their identity.

To be fair until the iPod the Apple base had a decent proportion of committed Cupertino cultists. At this stage that's an ancient historical anomaly. They still exist as a tiny fraction of the actual customer base nowadays, but the external critique is still trapped in a time warp.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by mavhc »

tehbeard wrote: post #338
Teslazar wrote: post #176

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I agree with the sentiment that the devices aren't being supported for long enough but thought I'd mention that you can install LineageOS on a Nexus 7 and get OS and software updates. According to Google, Pixel tablets will get "software version updates for at least 3 years" and "Pixel security updates for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the U.S." ( https://support.…

Lineage may have worked a few years after release. But in the 2020s the old nexus tablet is just too outdated. Can no longer play even YouTube videos well :( Got a cheap fire tablet to replace it. At some point I'll look at switching that to lineage to get out of Amazon's weird launcher and app store.

My Nexus 7 v2 is mostly used to play youtube videos at 2x speed

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

makeitdouble wrote: post #305
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

Apple isn't good at charging. There's a lot of aspect they excel, graphic design, ergonomics, material etc. Charging has never been their forte. I present as evidence: - the original humongous 31 pin ipod cable - the harpooned mouse - the wireless charging mat they never could deliver - the first Apple pencil (and its usb-c charging cable...) - their previous gen desktop keyboards charging over lightning Their only g…

>Apple isn't good at charging.

They're pretty good at changing how you charge every few years and charging you for that change though.

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