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Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by stinos »

Ruq wrote: post #60
movedx wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The START MENU? TEN YEARS? My friend, how about simple file management? They've been at that for DECADES and still can't get it right? "Oh, you dragged something over the top of a network drive in Explorer, let me waste the next 3-5 minutes trying to connect to that drive for you". Or how about this: "Oh you plugged in a USB drive that was setup as a live CD? Let me crash for a second and mash your MBR to bits". How…

I switched to Linux entirely (but may reinstall windows as a second OS for some games if I get the wild hair...), and while it can still be buggy at times here and there (Arch Linux, so go figure), it's usually my fault, and it can be remedied most of the time. Still a thousand times better of an experience than Windows.

The funny thing is that I encountered the exact same issues OP complains about (network not available = let's stall forever, insert USB drive = let's crash hard) on various mainstream distros. Especially the first one is super common and on various levels and through various protocols.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by Aleklart »

throwaway2990 wrote: post #85
splittydev wrote: post #2

Looks great, but not very realistic. The real Win11 start menu doesn't open immediately, it glitches in various ways for 3-4 times before actually working. Realism 7/10

Must be an america thing with the ads. In asia there’s no ads and it’s instant.

yesterday I saw an ad in start menu right between app names asking to pass some unrelated non ms survey. I thought i got malware, but it was “show suggestions occasionally” that I disabled a month ago enabled again.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by Jochim »

mcv wrote: post #140
bigmattystyles wrote: post #124

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Powertoys feels like one arm of Microsoft to fix windows’ shortcomings due to the other arm via an independent app rather than fixing the actual component because doing so is too fraught with politics and incentives.

So Microsoft does know how to fix the problems with Windows, but simply chooses not to because of internal politics? Because I keep wondering how such a big, well-established company full of smart people can create such a piece of crap as their flagship product.

The impression I got from reading through some of the Windows Terminal[0] issues/release notes, is that

It's understandable that it's much slower and more challenging to make changes to functionality that's become part of Windows core.

If something in PowerToys turns out to be a bad idea, it can be removed. It's much harder to justify that when it's been baked into the OS.

[0] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by geraldhh »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #124
ciberado wrote: post #113

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Since I installed PowerToys[0] and activated Run, I barely use the taskbar to start any program. It works like alt+f2 on Ubuntu, which is the experience I find most useful. [0] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/

Powertoys feels like one arm of Microsoft to fix windows’ shortcomings due to the other arm via an independent app rather than fixing the actual component because doing so is too fraught with politics and incentives.

well put!

aand it's doing so for some time now (20y?)

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by geraldhh »

Dalewyn wrote: post #119
dataflow wrote: post #75

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I like this part: > We have to hope that enough of the users whose systems are crashing realize that it’s due to the “shell enhancement” program (rather than blaming Windows itself, which is the more likely case) I would 100% blame Windows (or Microsoft, rather) for making the shell so awful that people have to resort to these tactics. You can't cripple the steering wheel on a car and then blame people for not findin…

This part too: >Unfortunately, these patchers also cause Windows customer satisfaction numbers to plunge every time an update goes out, I've refused/blocked updates for as long as I remember since long before Explorer patchers were a thing, because updates break my shit and waste my fucking time. I've had more of my time and nerves wasted by updates breaking my shit than "all the bad guys trying to take advantage of…

pet vs. cattle

but i'm afraid that your computer is indeed a 'mentally ill schizophrenic' which is here to stay, because fixing it would shift the focus/blame back to the operators.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by vxNsr »

mcv wrote: post #140
bigmattystyles wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Powertoys feels like one arm of Microsoft to fix windows’ shortcomings due to the other arm via an independent app rather than fixing the actual component because doing so is too fraught with politics and incentives.

So Microsoft does know how to fix the problems with Windows, but simply chooses not to because of internal politics? Because I keep wondering how such a big, well-established company full of smart people can create such a piece of crap as their flagship product.

this[0] might be some insight in how microsoft works, this is from the inventor of powershell

[0]https://twitter.com/jsnover/status/1653541834751180803?s=20

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by reactor »

deweywsu wrote: post #83

I'm going to sound old here, but why use Svelte? Why yet another one? Why not an established framework like React or Vue? I realize Svelte is compiled but it's oh so close to the others, and its performance is only better in certain corner cases. I ask because of learning exhaustion with the plethora of lookalike languages and frameworks and the constant, unending learning curve associated with all front end developm…

Looks like you haven't tried Svelte for something serious. As someone who used React for a long time and started using Svelte for about 6 months now, there's no way I'm going to go back to React, the DX with Svelte has been that good.

Re: Windows 11 in Svelte

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Post by geraldhh »

cbluth wrote: post #139
Dalewyn wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This part too: >Unfortunately, these patchers also cause Windows customer satisfaction numbers to plunge every time an update goes out, I've refused/blocked updates for as long as I remember since long before Explorer patchers were a thing, because updates break my shit and waste my fucking time. I've had more of my time and nerves wasted by updates breaking my shit than "all the bad guys trying to take advantage of…

The Linux user in me is hearing everything you're saying

and sharing the sentiment
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