YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
> So what is the alternative?
Most of the people and channels I follow are on Rumble. And no, most of them are not "right-wing" and fairly apolitical.
YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
While I still use Youtube (for now, while adblockers work), the alternative is Rumble (or something Rumble like). The censorship/narrative control from Youtube(Google), along with the removal of the ability to "dislike" videos has resulted in site where it is difficult to sift through spam when it comes to non-controversial topics, and difficult to find what you are looking for if you are looking for information that may conflict with the current "official narrative" on disputed topics. It is very similar to the way Substack has become (for the most part) my alternative to magazine and "news" journals. Legacy platforms owned by corporate conglomerates still have a leg up when it comes to audience size and archival library size, but as far as content goes, they are rapidly falling behind.
YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
I used to pay for it when it came with Google Play Music
> Peer to Peer for streaming doesn't seem a reasonable alternative at any scale, since most people own phones and then laptops, and much fewer desktops. Peer to peer streaming of the PeerTube type seems to work reasonably well. Unlike Mastodon, etc., you don't have to sign up to receive content. You just click on a URL and it works. What it doesn't offer is discovery. Nobody will find your stuff on PeerTube. They mig…
> doesn't seem a reasonable alternative at *any scale* Sure it works fine at trivial scale. But can it work at 1% of YouTube scale? How many nodes are needed for that to happen? Is that number viable?
The way PeerTube works, if you're watching it, you're also sharing it. So it should scale for popular videos.
Gsuite for personal use is and has always been very very half baked. To answer your question. I pay for it too but I also ask myself the same question as to why I don't just move my domain to a simpler service that'll host an email. But yes, the solution is definitely having a separate private gmail for those services.
Happy to plug Fastmail as a happy customer!
Their spam filtering is trash. Every day I get 1-2 obvious scam/spam emails. On the worst days I get 5+. I’ve been a customer for a year and I mark the spam as such with discipline and it has never caught on to what is spam. I’m at my limit and seriously considering going back to Workspace.
I've said it before and I've said it again: ad-based content and pay content are incompatible business models. YouTube Premium fails because the content isn't worth paying for. The content is not worth paying for because it's been designed from the ground up to sell ads . When a website designed to sell ads fails to sell content, that's not evidence that selling content doesn't work, it's evidence that selling conten…
YT premium is my only paid streaming and I'd simply stop watching youtube over going back to ads. I watch 2-3hrs of youtube a day and I'm glad that creators feel that YT premium revenue is a good source of revenue for them. Not their biggest, but a reasonable chunk.
I’m a full-time YouTuber. On a per-view basis, I earn slightly more from Premium views than from ad-watching views. (We’re talking tiny fractions of a cent, but they add up.)
Also, demonetized videos are still eligible for Premium revenue.
YouTube premium perfectly showcases why ads dominate the internet, because even when there is a paid option for a service much cheaper than any alternative, people do not want to pay (And I am not talking about too broke to pay cases). Serving an infinite video catalog is very expensive in terms of all resources (And yes Netflix is not comparable, unlike YouTube, Netflix can highly leverage cache boxes at ISPs). Vime…
The problem with YouTube premium is that it’s a music subscription service bundled with a video service. I have no interest in subsidizing the former to get the latter.
If you weren’t a paying customer, refuse to become a paying customer, and refuse to watch the ads, they don’t gain anything by having you as a user. It only costs them to retain you. If doing something as simple as asking you to hold up your end of the deal of using their website (letting ads load for the ad-supported content) is too much to ask but paying for the website is also too much to ask, you have to be hones…
Public goodwill is a thing. Also, their offer was lackluster. But with Youtube Music being a part of Premium and getting better and better overtime, more and more people are actually on the lookout for signing up. There's also a psychological aspect of it. Remember how it feels when you're just about to do something and someone told you that you have to do it? Taking the agency and initiative away tend to annoy peopl…
> more and more people are actually on the lookout for signing up
Supposedly they have over 80 million subscribers so they're definitely not hurting[0].
I am interested in seeing what happens if/when over 50% of users in the US subscribe to it. Advertisers are losing out on probably their biggest consumer market: people with enough money to handle a $12/mo subscription. Perhaps advertising income will start to shrink $12 for each user that subs to Premium?
YouTube premium was probably the best decision I did. Amount of time saved on ads alone makes it worth it. Other bonus feature - downloading videos. If you make enough money it is a no brainer together with things like extra cloud storage from google, Apple and now ChatGPT
>YouTube premium was probably the best decision I did. Amount of time saved on ads alone makes it worth it. Why do you get ads? I don't understand how there are people on Hacker News that don't use content blockers. Is is because of principle?
I barely visit sites with ads. And on my phone I have 1Blocker that blocks all the sites.
I used to be very tech savvy and solved a lot of problems with coding/software etc, no I grew up and switched to Mac and iPhone and if there is a problem (aka YouTube ads) that can be solved with money then I buy it. I used to torrent movies but now I value my time more than money and happily pay or overpay to save any time that is wasted.