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Re: Google I/O 2023

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It all goes back to reader. That's when it went sour. They eroded all trust. No one forgets that one.

March 13, 2013, a decade ago and RSS effectively died along with it. Being upset at this for 10 years is right up there with being upset that Gopher protocol never took off.

Ok, consider me pissed about gopher too then I guess? I mean, you knew the exact date and all didn't you?

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Some good stuff here. I like the Pixel 7A. I like that we've got another competitor in the LLM API market. But I wish Google would come out with a world-shifting technology like they used to. Maps, YouTube, Search. Surely they could do some crazy stuff with AI this year.

The people who made those "world shifting" products at Google back in the day are long gone.

Google is in the post-MBA-invasion phase where they are focused on value extraction from their market dominance and existing products, not in taking big risks and building big new things.

i.e. They did a speedrun of the IBM playbook in record time.

(Obviously I'm exaggerating a bit here, lots of good people still at Google, but the Google that made the products you're referring to doesn't exist anymore - look elsewhere for that stuff).

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Some good stuff here. I like the Pixel 7A. I like that we've got another competitor in the LLM API market. But I wish Google would come out with a world-shifting technology like they used to. Maps, YouTube, Search. Surely they could do some crazy stuff with AI this year.

The people who made those "world shifting" products at Google back in the day are long gone. Google is in the post-MBA-invasion phase where they are focused on value extraction from their market dominance and existing products, not in taking big risks and building big new things. i.e. They did a speedrun of the IBM playbook in record time. (Obviously I'm exaggerating a bit here, lots of good people still at Google, b…

I generally agree. I work there now and it's a shame.

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>A bit like smartphones, I’m scared we’ll first see an explosion of features then some backtracking to figure out the security & privacy models When was the backtracking with smartphones?

Maybe wrong word I just meant permissions were wider and more universal (for say location access or notifications) and now we’ve learned to make each granular permission opt in.

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So funny to see google stressing EVERYTIME that they have been using AI for years. Dude, you were seated in the pot of gold and let your organizational disfuncionality block you from really using that. And now you come trying to get the crown of AI? Catch up and them we can talk.

I mean, Google Translate has been basically completely AI powered for 5+ years, and it's one of the most used products in the world... The majority of what you see on SERPs has been AI generated for a decade, and that's Google's main money maker. This idea that Google sucks at AI and is clearly a million miles behind is intriguing. Google is currently the company everyone loves to hate like MSFT was 5-10 years ago. T…

> I mean, Google Translate has been basically completely AI powered for 5+ years, and it's one of the most used products in the world...

It's also the single clearest example of a product that's been left behind by the "AI revolution" - while Google may still have the numbers (like Yahoo Search did back in the day), DeepL is what serious people use.

> The majority of what you see on SERPs has been AI generated for a decade, and that's Google's main money maker.

It's also got subjectively worse and worse over that same time period. Demand for a better search engine is higher than it's been for decades.

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Ceci n'est pas une pipe. The features are exciting. Google I/O, the conference with talks, is seen as less so. Notice how all the comments are about the talks. Yesterday's Apple announcement was _not_ a conference, and the comment thread was about the new app. It's not the same thing at all. Here are some snippets from top-level comments in this discussion thread. > It's all business talk > I for one benefited so muc…

What does “Ceci n'est pas une pipe” mean in this context? I ended up on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images but I’m not sure what it means here.

I just meant that the conference is not the features. The conference is about the features, but they're different things. Much like the Magritte painting is not a pipe, it's a painting of a pipe. The analogy was not very good.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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Is it still a startup after a decade? Isn’t it just a company at that point.

Related: It drives me bananas when a mega-corp makes a small R&D team and the job req says “we are a small startup in a big company.” The benefits, bureaucracy, speed of innovation, and equity all fit the usual mega corporate shoes, so it’s probably still a traditional role.

I was in one of these. We got equity and benefits, but we were explicitly exempted from normal bureaucracy. Our exec sponsor (and nominal manager) asked that we tell him before we launched or signed a big customer, and that was about it. Otherwise, we could do whatever we wanted with basically no oversight.

I'm pretty sure we could have gotten away with spending most of our time playing video games on the company's dime, if we had wanted. We probably would have been fired once someone found out, but that's pretty universal.

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I remember Sergey skydiving onto the roof of Moscone in 2012, and everyone getting one of those cool Nexus Q media players which they never actually released so they all ended up as landfill. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_Q

At least the 2012 live demo went better than the 2010 keynote live demo when they unveiled Google TV... and the lead presenter was stuck on stage for 10 or 15 minutes because no one could figure out how to pair the wireless keyboard. Apparently having 5,000 people in the audience all with Bluetooth and WiFi-enabled devices was not accounted for when preparing for the live demo...

Re: Google I/O 2023

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In 2018 an obnoxious researcher working at a company known at the time as DeepMind told me (who was working in healthtech) that "AI in healthcare is a solved problem". It's 2023 now. AI in healthcare is a rounding error and will likely stay that way for a decade or longer. Google blew a 7 year lead of being an AI-first company to a non-profit. DeepMind is now a team within Google, similar to Ads, Drive, and Shopping…

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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If you pick 10 random sessions from the program[0], I'd think the odds are that you'll end up with like 8-9 technical sessions or workshops. The keynotes of course target a more general audience, but that's always been the case. (E.g. haven't they been announcing consumer hardware during the keynotes basically from the start?). It seems in line with something like the WWDC, which is a developer conference but with a…

I haven't tuned in for the past few years, but I will today because I'm just curious to see how (if?) Google responds to the ChatGPT phenomenon.

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