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Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

iinnPP wrote: post #280
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #272

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> The assumption that people from the LGBT+ community must be of certain political beliefs is in itself prejudice. this is an assumption you made, if anybody did, as I did not > People don't have to do what you believe is best for them. I didn't claim otherwise here, either you seem extremely confused at what I said, so please re-read it, because I literally didn't mention political beliefs or forcing people to accep…

My comment wasn't really meant for you. It wasn't a criticism of you. It was a message indicating that everyone should be free to make their own decisions and shouldn't feel pressured based on how anyone else perceives them. Perhaps it was poorly worded. You however, tossed in a "are you mad?" I won't engage with you further.

> My comment wasn't really meant for you.

In the future, to avoid such misunderstandings, it would be best if post replies were replies to posts.

> You however, tossed in a "are you mad?" I won't engage with you further.

Not sure what imaginary "are you mad?" you're referring to, but nobody can force you to respond to the actual points in the posts you reply to, so go ahead and don't.

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Post by slap »

shjake wrote: post #221
CapstanRoller wrote: post #209

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It might be the outcome of racist policies or general racist attitudes but they are statistically correct. There is a high correlation between between ethnic or racial makeup of a certain area and crime and gun violence. I’m not sure simply handwaving this by calling everyone who points that out a ‘racist’ is the most productive attitude… Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct in…

>>Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct indicator than race.

Not the case in the US, poverty is a bad indicator, race is a good one.

Poorest white crime rates are lower than the richest blacks.

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Post by [deleted] »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #8

I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…

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Post by woodruffw »

seedless-sensat wrote: post #261
woodruffw wrote: post #228

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Having a roommate is my choice; you can confirm the number ranges I gave for studios and 1BRs in those neighborhoods on most sites. I’ve never paid more than $2,000/mo in rent in NYC, and that was a 1BR in Manhattan in 2018.

In this whole exchange you implied you lived in a 1br apt for $1.6k in a cool area today, but now it comes out you share a 3br. I also chuckled

I double-checked what I’ve written, and nowhere do I imply that. I said that one can find a 1BR.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

LeanderK wrote: post #274
prepend wrote: post #254

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> …hostile to them. This is true for a variety of targeted groups including LGBT+ people, ethnic minorities, or even just women I suppose that’s a personal design and a trade off that you and others need to make. I live in a “red state” and am described by several of the groups you mention and don’t feel the government nor community is hostile to me. I think it’s hard to understand beforehand what is hostile and how…

is there really no middle ground (not an American)? What about cities like Seattle or Boston (just guessing here)? For me, the thought feels a bit like just going back in time. I mean there are still issues everywhere but this is so drastic and feels like you're back to constantly fighting for really basic rights. This comment also reads a bit like it's ok for you if you don't personally feel hostility, so this might…

> is there really no middle ground (not an American)? What about cities like Seattle or Boston (just guessing here)? For me, the thought feels a bit like just going back in time. I mean there are still issues everywhere but this is so drastic and feels like you're back to constantly fighting for really basic rights.

Keeping the political and social narratives focused on fights for basic rights ensures that no one passes laws that impact the ruling class.

Kinda like the Trump era tax cut, or how minimum wage hasn't changed. Meanwhile all everyone is talking about is guns and abortion.

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Post by gumballindie »

Convert these empty offices to living space, turn roads into space for walking and dining and small shops. I so wish this would happen to London UK. Cleaner air, friendlier and happier people, tourism and living space are better than stressed workers rushing to jobs they can do via email or zoom.

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

alephnerd wrote: post #189
CydeWeys wrote: post #183

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SF was a much different place pre-2010. And it's going to be rough getting back there from here. In particular the city's expenditures are way higher now (but without revenues to match), and the homeless crisis is way worse.

I was a kid here in the late 90s/early 2000s. It's still as crummy now as it was then. I remember seeing drug addicts on market as a kid, as well as the gang crap in Hunter Points (what's now called Mission Bay - India Basin has been renamed Hunters Point) and Mission District. The difference is Mission, Northern Tenderloin/"Lower Nob Hill", Western Addition/"Hayes Valley", and Hunters Point had been extremely gentri…

> India Basin has been renamed Hunters Point

Think you got this backwards.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

dffdsa432 wrote: post #142
CapstanRoller wrote: post #136

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Mass shootings aren't correlated with poverty. Guns are expensive. Most mass shooters are disaffected folks in the "middle class" who have money to acquire weapons (or access to weapons via relatives) and time to spend immersing themselves in online right-wing cesspits. Actual poor people are too busy trying to grind and survive.

The most violent cities in America are all blue cities. https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-viol...

Virtually all large cities in the US are blue, even in otherwise rabidly red states.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

dumbotron wrote: post #237
fwungy wrote: post #149

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The Romans managed their empire with divide and conquer tactics. Guns, abortion, trans issues are just red meat the corporations throw to the masses to keep their eye off what's really going on. What's really going on? The pensions and retirements of the middle class are being drained away with inflationary monetary policy to pay for wars around the world and keep the corporate class on top. We are free to fight to t…

You're confusing misdirection for divide and conquer. Divide and conquer would mean the US splits up so China can be the superpower.

Yeah the parent isn't fundamentally wrong, just misusing a term.

"Wedge Issues" would the political science nerd terminology, e.g. abortion, guns, or trans rights, which serve as a lever to push political action.

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Post by matthewaveryusa »

LeanderK wrote: post #278
lotsofpulp wrote: post #275

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> Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas State laws have benefited me or the people I care about in the following ways: -my wife had 8 more weeks of parental leave -16 of my wife’s parental leave weeks were paid leave from the state’s family leave act -state laws provide paid family and medical leave in case I should need it in the future -my wife and daughter have an easy time…

There are also LGBTQ rights. What if your child ends up coming out to you? Just because you're not part of it is not a valid reason. It's like saying you don't care about racism because you don't personally experience it even though you don't belong to a minority yourself.

I think the default is not to care about anything that doesn't affect you personally. I think it's the wrong approach to think folks should care because it's so obvious to you that they should. It's far more effective to explain why someone should care from their point of you than hand-waving 'everyone should care about racism because racism bad'
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