My friends who cheated in interviews are getting promoted (2022)

Post by hgsgm » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:25 PM UTC

preommr wrote: post #50

gardenhedge wrote: post #4

I grew up staunchly against cheating. Becoming an adult was hard. My whole university class cheated on a tough assignment - someone found the solution online and shared it around. I didn't look at it, took the challenge and gave it a lot of effort. I got a pretty bad mark and the rest of the class got top marks. I also see the same mindset in work. People don't prepare for presentations and then spitball when present…

Ironic then that the real test was to see who has flexible thinking to adjust to a dynamic situation and who mindlessly follows misconstrued advice. If you really wanted to challenge yourself there's nothing stopping you from doing extra excerises outside of class. Yes, your other classmates were wrong for cheating, but you're paying the university and they can't even be bothered to update the their tests because the…

Post by hgsgm » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:27 PM UTC

wahnfrieden wrote: post #23

thih9 wrote: post #19

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Get stuff done but not exactly meet all of the requirements. So maybe features will get implemented but rules and laws not necessarily respected. And perhaps that’s useful for some companies.

“No internet during dev” is not a business requirement, it’s hazing When I used to run interviews (no longer working) I’d learn the most from seeing how candidates resourcefully used google, skimmed results, found relevant info. That was immediately revealing.

Post by fauxpause_ » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:27 PM UTC

hgsgm wrote: post #98

fauxpause_ wrote: post #64

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But that’s not cheating on presenting, that’s just doing a bad job, no? That is, just visible incompetence?

It leads to the modern world where "influencers" and "fake news" succeed while creators and contributors fail. It's hard to see this being the basis of a sustainable society.

Post by dariusj18 » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:29 PM UTC

heelix wrote: post #27

I've done a lot of screening interviews and cheating does happen. Some of my favorites: * developer attempts to pass something off as video lag, as he attempts to lip sync someone else's answer. * developer had printed all the 'common' answers on the wall behind his computer, and would look up to them for reference as we were talking. Then the tape came off and covered him in a a paper stack overflow. * the glorious…

Post by peteradio » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:30 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #47

gardenhedge wrote: post #4

I grew up staunchly against cheating. Becoming an adult was hard. My whole university class cheated on a tough assignment - someone found the solution online and shared it around. I didn't look at it, took the challenge and gave it a lot of effort. I got a pretty bad mark and the rest of the class got top marks. I also see the same mindset in work. People don't prepare for presentations and then spitball when present…

You can’t really cheat your way to a better presentation. If the “spitballed” version is good enough for the situation, why expend a lot of effort on preparation? Maybe the problem is that people have low expectations when everyone delivers bad presentations. This kind of cultural thing is often easier to fix by changing the format rather than pushing for everyone to do more — in other words, ask “do we need all thes…