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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by chongli »

afroboy wrote: post #553
chongli wrote: post #282

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In the jetbrains you only get a perpetual license for the current version. You lose the year of updates. Yeah, that model is infuriating. While your subscription is running you get the updates. Then they snatch them away if you cancel. It's a dark pattern.

At least they give you perpetual license which is good for lot of devs, i've never seen another company do that.

Perpetual licenses were the norm for most of the history of commercial software. They only went away in recent times. The fact that we tolerate this state of affairs is appalling.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by chrisaiv »

whiddershins wrote: post #309
jahnu wrote: post #49

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As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

Semi off topic but if I want to develop audio plugins for live performance iOS/osx what is a really good resource, in your estimation? When I look for books on Core Audio there’s approximately one on Amazon and it isn’t very recent. I don’t really want to live on another layer, like developing in Max or Juce or AudioKit or whatever is out there. I’d rather code directly against Apple’s APIs. Or I think that’s what I…

I just completed an article on how to build your first plugin using Javascript through Elementary Audio Framework.

The article contains a Repo that should make it easier to build. Would really appreciate your feedback.

https://www.chrisjmendez.com/2023/03/29/build-vst-or-audio-u...

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by carlosjobim »

coldtea wrote: post #545
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Of course they think about their profits and shareholders. But nobody is forced to get the software, they can go with a competitor or use Garage Band - for free. If you think somebody is a sucker for getting software as a subscription, then you are very unimaginative as to what are the needs and wants of other people. Many people are going to think it's great. Those who hate it can still buy Logic for their laptop fo…

> Of course they think about their profits and shareholders. But nobody is forced to get the software Yes, nobody is threatened with death if they don't comply. I'll give you that. For many pro users, with project files in that software, compatible hardware, accustomed to workflows, a studio setup based on it, etc, "just go to other software or use Garageband which is free" is as good as forcing.

I'd say pro users probably already have laptops and desktops with their pro tools (hehe). They can also pay $5 bucks per month.

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Post by zuppy »

nottorp wrote: post #79
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what older device is cut off from the app store? you get to keep that version that you have and the subscription will go on.

You can see into the future?

no, i can see into the past and you're being disingenuous. this is the current way that older apps are supported, and compared to android, apple provides longest support for older os versions. the ones that are not supporten anymore get to keep (and download) the latest compatible version of the app. i had a device where i tested that.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by tzs »

basisword wrote: post #64

So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A…

> The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create.

For audio, isn't something like 99% of that market already covered well by GarageBand?

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Post by paulpan »

rcarr wrote: post #406
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100%. Whereas in the prior decade there were hardware limitations to device convergence (e.g. lack of CPU power, RAM), this is a no longer an issue and software is the roadblock is most cases. Ironically Apple threw open the doors when they not only put the M1 chip into the iPad Pro, but also into the iPad Air. One reason for this slow transition is likely due to the legacy software support requirements. Microsoft se…

What Samsung device are you using? My initial thought when I saw the Fold was that it was a gimmick but I'm looking to do some long term travelling and I'm starting to come round to it, especially with Dex thrown in the mix. The RRP is absolutely eye watering though so if I was going to dip my toes in it would probably be with a second hand device.

I'm using a Fold 4, but would've preferred on the Flip series given its smaller footprint. But Samsung made the asinine decision to enable Dex on the Flip series (could be due to thermals?).

Dex actually works starting with the S20 series I believe, with the same feature parity as the latest devices. So you could pickup a cheap used S20 device to try it out.

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Post by Ancapistani »

0x457 wrote: post #330
B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #288

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> the wireless Bluetooth, and what it does to audio, It should do about the same as the "oxygen-free copper" cables, perhaps slower - moving bits from A to B. Is there any evidence otherwise?

Well, BT introduces additional delay and jitter. It's fine for listening to music because you can "cache" segments. That's totally not going to working real-time audio. Apple doesn't support aptX HD, aptX Lossless, LDAC for Bluetooth devices. IIRC they use AAC 256 kbps for their wireless audio. Once again, totally fine for listening Spotify and apply music, but I imagine suboptimal for DAW.

I had a brief foray into using a set of Bluetooth headphones for PC gaming. It was “brief” because the delay was enough that it got me killed in games regularly enough that it was just intolerable.

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Post by alariccole »

My money is on a larger iPad (think Microsoft Studio) that takes the place of an iMac. Likely 15” at first, larger later. I really enjoy a keyboard and trackpad with an iPad and an external monitor. This would be my only machine if I could run Xcode/Terminal on it.

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Post by ls612 »

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It'd be interesting to see them modify their Apple One tiers. Split out Premier to a "Premier home" tier (keeping News+ and Fitness+) and a "Pro" tier at the same price that gives you 4TB of iCloud Drive + Logic and Final Cut instead of the 2TB/News/Fitness option.

Apple needs to at least adjust their iCloud storage tiers to match their phones. The jump from 200GB to 2TB is ridiculous and feels like extortion. The 50GB -> 200GB is also ridiculous because it can't even support a full backup of their base 64GB iPhone.

They charge the same as MS and google afaik for cloud storage so it's hard to complain.

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Post by filoleg »

justinator wrote: post #365
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Yep, I totally forgot about this use-case, but there were plenty of situations where it would've saved me. With one a couple a years ago that I vividly remember. I volunteered to edit a demo video for our internal hackathon project, and had both an M1 iPad and a new macbook. I wanted to go all out on the video just for the fun of it, and I still had some of the final cut pro muscle memory from many years before, even…

iMovie for iPhone doesn't even let you author in 9:16, which is criminal. I find iMovie for Mac pretty useful, honestly.

> I find iMovie for Mac pretty useful, honestly.

Agreed, but only because comparable alternatives are even worse imo. Hopefully, one day Apple will nail it like they did with GarageBand, as GB used to be pretty meh as well not that long ago.

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