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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by boomboomsubban »

airocker wrote: post #239
yipbub wrote: post #234

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Yes, but bribes are a fact of life in India as well. (Indian here)

You have 55 countries between rank 85 and rank 140 that are better match to Pakistan than India: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022 , why this privilege to only us Indians? I read the above comment as "See we are as good as Indians, this is just a blip".

On a scale of 100, Pakistan got a 27 and India 40. Definitely similar. Particularly as Pakistan's perceived corruption score has been falling, likely partially due to Khan's highlighting of the issue.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by yipbub »

airocker wrote: post #239
yipbub wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but bribes are a fact of life in India as well. (Indian here)

You have 55 countries between rank 85 and rank 140 that are better match to Pakistan than India: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022 , why this privilege to only us Indians? I read the above comment as "See we are as good as Indians, this is just a blip".

You objected to "In South Asian politics, bribes are a way of life", that statement is still true.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by airocker »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #241
airocker wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have 55 countries between rank 85 and rank 140 that are better match to Pakistan than India: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022 , why this privilege to only us Indians? I read the above comment as "See we are as good as Indians, this is just a blip".

On a scale of 100, Pakistan got a 27 and India 40. Definitely similar. Particularly as Pakistan's perceived corruption score has been falling, likely partially due to Khan's highlighting of the issue.

Fun fact: In terms of rank , the difference between USA and India is similar to India and Pakistan. Maybe the commentor could have chosen USA for comparison.

Funny thing is perception, these comments just harm India's perception for readers here. Why drag us here?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by airocker »

yipbub wrote: post #242
airocker wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have 55 countries between rank 85 and rank 140 that are better match to Pakistan than India: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022 , why this privilege to only us Indians? I read the above comment as "See we are as good as Indians, this is just a blip".

You objected to "In South Asian politics, bribes are a way of life", that statement is still true.

I rest my case.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by grecy »

csomar wrote: post #179
usernew wrote: post #157

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What you suggest is impossible, because you are attacking a wrench on the head problem with a coding solution. You can always get a dish and connect to your choice of orbital provider, if your ISP - which is regulated - is blocked. The problem is, guys with guns will come to your door, beat you with a wrench, and put you in jail. Now if we solve for the real issue - lack of freedom because of a ruling class, the tech…

> The problem is, guys with guns will come to your door, beat you with a wrench, and put you in jail. This is hyperbole. A dictator might have the tools to shut off a couple of dissident. But if you have a large portion of the population running these dishes, it's game over. > Most people are bootlickers. Most people want the type of power structure that ends up with the internet blocked. They don't want freedom - th…

> But if you have a large portion of the population running these dishes, it's game over

It is illegal to bring them into the country, and if you get caught doing so it's jail time. That is true today of drones and any sat communication system in many, many countries.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by Thorrez »

usernew wrote: post #157
skeaker wrote: post #6

I would like to believe there is a future where blocking access to the internet is unilaterally impossible. Major powers being able to pull the rug on what has become a foundation of modern society like this is too scary of a thing to allow. What could the answer be? Satellite-powered relays and DIY-able user devices to talk to them?

What you suggest is impossible, because you are attacking a wrench on the head problem with a coding solution. You can always get a dish and connect to your choice of orbital provider, if your ISP - which is regulated - is blocked. The problem is, guys with guns will come to your door, beat you with a wrench, and put you in jail. Now if we solve for the real issue - lack of freedom because of a ruling class, the tech…

>magats prosecuting women and doctors for murder because of a life-threatening abortion

Are you saying that's something that has happened? Do you have a link?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by boomboomsubban »

airocker wrote: post #243
boomboomsubban wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a scale of 100, Pakistan got a 27 and India 40. Definitely similar. Particularly as Pakistan's perceived corruption score has been falling, likely partially due to Khan's highlighting of the issue.

Fun fact: In terms of rank , the difference between USA and India is similar to India and Pakistan. Maybe the commentor could have chosen USA for comparison. Funny thing is perception, these comments just harm India's perception for readers here. Why drag us here?

Fun fact, there's a 13 point gap between rank 1 and rank 10. So those two also are apparently incomparable.

Why are you comparing rank? They give the index a score for comparisons sake.

If I were working to set up a business in one of the two countries, maybe a thirteen point gap in perceived corruption would be important to me. But for casual conversation they're both very corrupt.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by ludston »

jostiniane wrote: post #224
lannisterstark wrote: post #60

I love when authoritarian nations just block internet. India did it in Kashmir for a fuckton of time, and it was practically unusable for a longer period (2G speeds). they also do it at even little bit of protests. How dare the citizens protest their own governments, no, no internet for you! ---- The world will be a better place without these govts.

Somehow some governments do it and go under the mainstream media coverage. is it because they got the green light from the bigger guys to do it? (I am talking about Algeria during the protests) Just to say, it's not as simple as authoritarian vs not, it's mote like, authoritarian and didn't get the green light vs not.

India is the big guys though isn't it?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by porkbeer »

throwawaytt wrote: post #225
anaganisk wrote: post #190

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So you made a throwaway to say this? Did you even read my comment properly? I said average citizens and people like you again go back to propaganda. Tell me what BJP uses to win elections all the time? Hatred against Muslims? Top BJP Subramaniyam swami was quoted saying "Muslims are not equals, so they don't need equal rights". >They preach hatered towards Hindus/Jews in their schools (books are filled with hatred).…

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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by airocker »

airocker wrote: post #243
boomboomsubban wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a scale of 100, Pakistan got a 27 and India 40. Definitely similar. Particularly as Pakistan's perceived corruption score has been falling, likely partially due to Khan's highlighting of the issue.

Fun fact: In terms of rank , the difference between USA and India is similar to India and Pakistan. Maybe the commentor could have chosen USA for comparison. Funny thing is perception, these comments just harm India's perception for readers here. Why drag us here?

I am not here to dissect the point difference. I am just saying why drag us here and not the other 55?
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