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Post by dumbotron »

slg wrote: post #115
bityard wrote: post #78

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Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. You'll always find people here and there who won't give you the time of day if you're not on Team Blue or Team Red, but my take on it is, if I can't make fr…

>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. This is a comment that originates in privilege. The concern for many people is not simply that they would have to be friends with conservative people. The…

> my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic

What are conservative (and liberal) hobbies?

Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by dumbotron »

theironhammer wrote: post #152
oatmeal1 wrote: post #126

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Avoiding red states to avoid being shot would be extremely dumb for many reasons. 1. Cities and neighborhoods in any state can be safe, even in the states with the most shootings 2. If you have enough money to choose to live in another state, you're probably not going to be living in an extremely poor area that is the most likely to be beset with gun violence 3. Other commonplace things are much more likely to kill y…

Perhaps you should have a look at this book. https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/william-kleinknec... Some Red States are an absolute mess. Some of their stats resemble third world countries. Their education systems are shoddy. Their drinking water systems are dangerous to health. Taxes are shameful: low taxes for the wealthy but high sales taxes which hurt the poor the most. Just for starters.

> Some of their stats resemble third world countries.

Have you walked through the TL?

Comparing California and Texas can be interesting because the states are both dominated by a single party, so you see how both ideologies can go wrong. With Texas being like a developing country, I'm reminded of the winter power outage. They love free markets. It's not worth it to harden the electric grid for an event that rare that only lasts a few days. Picking on California, its K-12 education is in the bottom quartile.

Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by mock-possum »

azemetre wrote: post #84
wootland wrote: post #34

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I can only speak for myself but I would never work non-remote again, even if I had my own private office.

I wouldn't mind working remote if my commute is walkable. I purposely live in Boston to have access to the T, but many companies in Boston are opening up offices in Seaport which is the most awkward place to get to using public transit.

Yeah same, if I just had to walk 5 or 6 blocks to get to work, I’d probably go for it. Walk home for lunch. Sounds pretty alright.

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Post by FrontierPsych »

slg wrote: post #115
bityard wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. You'll always find people here and there who won't give you the time of day if you're not on Team Blue or Team Red, but my take on it is, if I can't make fr…

>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. This is a comment that originates in privilege. The concern for many people is not simply that they would have to be friends with conservative people. The…

>This is a comment that originates in privilege.

This sounds like a comment about privilege that originates in privilege.

The person just expressed his or her opinion, and bandying words like "privilege" shuts down communication by route of shaming someone.

Not everyone is LGBT+, ethnic minority.

If someone was to offer someone $20 million per year to do a job in Kansas, I guess many people would turn it down to make a point, but no reason to crap over someone who wants to make that $20 million.

The fact of the matter is that in most red states, there are blue cities.

Texas - Austin (Travis County) - 72.8% voted for Joe Biden Georgia - Atlanta (Fulton County) - 72.6% voted for Joe Biden Arizona - Phoenix (Maricopa County) - 50.3% voted for Joe Biden North Carolina - Charlotte (Mecklenburg County) - 67.5% voted for Joe Biden Tennessee - Nashville (Davidson County) - 61.7% voted for Joe Biden Florida - Miami (Miami-Dade County) - 53.3% voted for Joe Biden Ohio - Cleveland (Cuyahoga County) - 68.1% voted for Joe Biden Indiana - Indianapolis (Marion County) - 60.2% voted for Joe Biden Missouri - Kansas City (Jackson County) - 60.7% voted for Joe Biden Utah - Salt Lake City (Salt Lake County) - 62.9% voted for Joe Biden

And remember, geographically, California is MAJORLY red. Look at the last election map. What happens if someone moves there. Sure, you get abortion in California, but your neighbors are going to still be hard-core MAGA Republicans.

I must say, it is extremely disheartening when people throw around words like "privilege" just as an easy way to shut down communication by shame. I know you'll most likely deny it, what else can you do, but it is what it is. So I'd appreciate it if people would argue their case without these types of coded words. Just my opinion, don't tell me I'm privileged or misogynist or transphobic or fat-shaming or the million other words designed to immediately shut down a conversation by name-calling. I mean, I know that's the game these days - continual virtue signalling, de-platforming, gotchas for showing the world how virtuous one is and tallying up one's "I'm good" checkmarks. And if you say you aren't or that isn't the purpose...right, ok, sure. If you say so. Whatever you say. I believe you. Right.

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Post by dumbotron »

CapstanRoller wrote: post #187
bombcar wrote: post #144

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Mass shootings are technically any that have a victim count over a certain number and the vast majority of those are committed by criminals with cheap weapons. Guns are not expensive, they're way cheaper than a car. The Hipoint C9 retails new for $199. If you can afford a mobile phone (read: almost everyone in the USA) you can afford multiple guns.

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I'm surprised mass shooters all love ARs. A cheap plastic 9mm pistol with hollowpoint rounds is plenty deadly.

Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by refurb »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #8

I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…

States change over time. Colorado used to be quite red a couple decades ago.

And states aren’t monolithic just because they “red” or “blue”. You’ll find liberals and conservatives in every state.

I understand not wanting to live in a state that has laws you can live under, whether abortion or gun control or marijuana, but remove those and there are still a ton of options.

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Post by dumbotron »

fwungy wrote: post #149
HDThoreaun wrote: post #96

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Oh I can make friends. What I can't do is get an abortion or in good faith tell my lgbt child that I support them. I deeply believe that unwanted children make society worse so expect abortion banning states to become less desirable in 15-20 years.

The Romans managed their empire with divide and conquer tactics. Guns, abortion, trans issues are just red meat the corporations throw to the masses to keep their eye off what's really going on. What's really going on? The pensions and retirements of the middle class are being drained away with inflationary monetary policy to pay for wars around the world and keep the corporate class on top. We are free to fight to t…

You're confusing misdirection for divide and conquer. Divide and conquer would mean the US splits up so China can be the superpower.

Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by refurb »

fundad wrote: post #157
slg wrote: post #115

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>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. This is a comment that originates in privilege. The concern for many people is not simply that they would have to be friends with conservative people. The…

Yes it's pretty plain to see which states are using the law to suppress the rights of many people. Also most suburbs even in blue states are conservative enough, no need to go further MAGA.

Which states? I mean, if you asked me, California’s gun control laws suppress the rights of many people, but I’m guessing you don’t agree?

My point is, you have your own political views, but at the same time live in a country with a lot of differing views.

You should feel free to live wherever you want but at the same time realize you’ll never find a place that 100% agrees with all your views.

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Post by dumbotron »

candiddevmike wrote: post #103
HDThoreaun wrote: post #96

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Oh I can make friends. What I can't do is get an abortion or in good faith tell my lgbt child that I support them. I deeply believe that unwanted children make society worse so expect abortion banning states to become less desirable in 15-20 years.

What's wrong with your kids being LGBT? Why wouldn't you support that?

I'm sympathetic to concerns that some kids (mostly girls) are doing it because it's a trendy thing to do. I'm worried things like The Genderbread Person send the wrong message by gendering clothes and activities. It tells a boy wearing pink and playing with barbies he's a girl.

If my kid's LGB, I'm glad they found what they're looking for, and if they change their mind, that works too. The trans bit worries me because it's permanent.

I think both sides have gone too far on this issue, and find California and Florida equally scary.

Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy

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Post by imajoo »

dumbotron wrote: post #231
slg wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I'm a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. This is a comment that originates in privilege. The concern for many people is not simply that they would have to be friends with conservative people. The…

> my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic What are conservative (and liberal) hobbies?

My assumption would be hunting perhaps? Since that involves gun ownership, and gun ownership/rights typically being associated with "conservatives".
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