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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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I love when authoritarian nations just block internet. India did it in Kashmir for a fuckton of time, and it was practically unusable for a longer period (2G speeds). they also do it at even little bit of protests. How dare the citizens protest their own governments, no, no internet for you! ---- The world will be a better place without these govts.

India is particularly trigger happy with blocking the internet at the first sign of trouble in any city or region.

Makes me wonder what will happen to the internet - and politics - once generative AI tools are sufficiently advanced and easy to use. It’s already easy to rile up people with Whatsapp forwards. Imagine how easy it would be if the Whatsapp message comes with an inflammatory AI generated video.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Unfortunately, India today is not exactly a beacon of righteousness. The current government in India is taking the country on exactly the same path as Pakistan except that India has an oligarchy which is being setup by people in government which would make it more like Russia. I'll give the country 10 years to implode if it doesn't course correct to become more inclusive, social justice oriented, and less violent.

I'll give the country 10 years to implode I am willing to take a bet for any $$ value with 10x odds in your favor to contest that claim. more inclusive, social justice oriented, and less violent Hot take. If you genuinely cared about these things, you'd end up a supporter of the Modi Govt. I do not mind views that are diametrically opposite to me. But, every article in western media seems to be written by someone who…

You have to be living under a rock to not see the continuous degradation of press freedom in the country. You can go through this research for some in-depth review

https://indianculturalforum.in/2021/01/08/behind-bars-arrest...

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Contrary to popular belief, at least in my country (India). I feel bad for the citizens of Pakistan. There has not been a single stint of govt that has lasted peacefully since independence. A country can never grow without a peaceful transfer of power, and constant political imbalance will just not allow anything to advance. A shared history/culture with us and it's a shame our govts have differences. We fought toget…

I’ve always felt that its very hard to harbor deep hatred for any people when you can speak their language and share their culture.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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I love when authoritarian nations just block internet. India did it in Kashmir for a fuckton of time, and it was practically unusable for a longer period (2G speeds). they also do it at even little bit of protests. How dare the citizens protest their own governments, no, no internet for you! ---- The world will be a better place without these govts.

Somehow some governments do it and go under the mainstream media coverage. is it because they got the green light from the bigger guys to do it? (I am talking about Algeria during the protests)

Just to say, it's not as simple as authoritarian vs not, it's mote like, authoritarian and didn't get the green light vs not.

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So you made a throwaway to say this? Did you even read my comment properly? I said average citizens and people like you again go back to propaganda. Tell me what BJP uses to win elections all the time? Hatred against Muslims? Top BJP Subramaniyam swami was quoted saying "Muslims are not equals, so they don't need equal rights". >They preach hatered towards Hindus/Jews in their schools (books are filled with hatred).…

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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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>We fought together to gain freedom and just drifted apart. A movement propped up on the idea of a "separate nation for muslims", fought hard for and achieved with much violence and bloodshed is "just drifted apart" Wow !

I don't know what you are trying to say here, but it didn't have to be violent and persist after too, that's exactly what I was saying by "drifting apart". If they felt safer as a separate nation to have their interests protected that shouldn't be the cause of bitterness. Jinnah and Nehru had both been adamant on their stances, former was proponent of federal governance while later a central. India had several bifurc…

You are equating bifurcation of states for political & administrative reasons, within the same country, to splitting a country into two !

When a country is split, crimes committed against those who are migrating to another country will not be prosecuted by the home country, and will not be possible to be prosecuted by the split country.

Land, Houses and other immovable assets will be stolen from those who are forced to leave respective countries.

Rapes, looting and arson are rampant, on both sides.

In the case of India and Pakistan, the division was on explicit religious lines. Islam has an outdated theology of being the only true religion and all other religions are false (as is Christianity). This theology forms the basis (whether that basis evolved later or is advocated by islam is a secondary issue) of the idea than non-believers can be treated inhumanely and are essentially no different from animals.

In essence, Partition of India was not "drifting apart". It was a violent tearing apart of countries and communities. The origin was from the muslim community, whose political leaders realized that for them to seize power, a democratic setup with majority Hindu population will be impossible. So, to preserve their power and egos, they split the country, aided by pacifists like Gandhi and Nehru.

To note, Pakistan has one of the most fertile lands on earth. Abundance of natural resources and a strategically important location.

Also to note, the plan was to destroy Hindu civilization as a whole (a historical dream of Islam. Search google for Gazwa-e-Hind). Jinnah proposed a 10 mile wide corridor, cutting across the heart of India to allow road access to east pakistan (now Bangladesh)

Partition of India is the manifestation of the idea of Gazwa-e-Hind. A strike at the Hindu India.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Contrary to popular belief, at least in my country (India). I feel bad for the citizens of Pakistan. There has not been a single stint of govt that has lasted peacefully since independence. A country can never grow without a peaceful transfer of power, and constant political imbalance will just not allow anything to advance. A shared history/culture with us and it's a shame our govts have differences. We fought toget…

Modi is corrupt. The guy does not have the interest of the country at heart, he just cares about the Ambanis and increasing the wealth of his political allies.

World is not as black and white as you think or how the media portrays.

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As a casual exercise, I would suggest you look for a graph of lynchings, riots, and raids in India especially of minorities and "others" for varying levels of trivial reasons by groups associated with the ruling party with patronage and overt support from it. Every festival season is open season for riots in many places. Execution style public hit jobs bypassing "due process" on rivals, criminals, and others are beco…

There were a total of 117 lynchings in India in 2019, compared to 41 for the US in the same time period. This is the same number of lynchings on a per capita basis - while 117 lynchings is a 117 too many, the number is effectively negligible in a country of 1.2 billion people. Execution style hit jobs on rivals? When did these happen? Are you simply making up executions in your mind? Claiming India will collapse in 1…

>Execution style hit jobs on rivals? When did these happen?

You haven't heard of Uttar Pradesh?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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post #184
post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a casual exercise, I would suggest you look for a graph of lynchings, riots, and raids in India especially of minorities and "others" for varying levels of trivial reasons by groups associated with the ruling party with patronage and overt support from it. Every festival season is open season for riots in many places. Execution style public hit jobs bypassing "due process" on rivals, criminals, and others are beco…

There were a total of 117 lynchings in India in 2019, compared to 41 for the US in the same time period. This is the same number of lynchings on a per capita basis - while 117 lynchings is a 117 too many, the number is effectively negligible in a country of 1.2 billion people. Execution style hit jobs on rivals? When did these happen? Are you simply making up executions in your mind? Claiming India will collapse in 1…

Is there a source for the 41 lynchings in America?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Scrolling through the comments, Imran was arrested for accepting bribes worth billions while in office. Some comments say it's true, the other it's false charges. Does anybody have a credible source for what's really going on? The point of propaganda is not to make people believe it. It is to foster cynicism so that we don’t know what to believe and come to believe that nothing is true, no facts are reliable, and the…

Paki here, here to give the sad truth: while he most definitely profited from this (and other) deals, the fact that this deal was passed through when he was in office without any issue then , and the fact that the other party (the property tycoon) is NOT also been indicted means that there is most definitely a political manoeuvre. The same happened with the previous PM, Nawaz Sharif. Most people remember his name wit…

I'm seriously confused how people can remotely equate them. Nawaz sharif is worth 100s of millions. He's driving around in Bentleys in London for 4 years while his brother is PM of Pakistan.

I really want to know what did IK profit in the current allegations? He's creating a university where students learn for free like his decades old hospitals where people get free healthcare.

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