Oh that's why they have insane salaries
A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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yes but 20 million dollars a year. 20 fucking million getting splunk with 1pb a month ingest isnt that expensive.
Please tell me I am allowed to say "you could just use grep and rsync". I must be allowed!
but only if you have "as-a-service" attached to the end of it.
or something with chatgpt
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#213Stupid question: What open source solution can give me an easy Datadog(ish) experience and is simple to implement?
You should check out SigNoz (https://github.com/SigNoz/signoz) - It's an open source alternative to DataDog with metrics, traces and logs in a single application. You can just self host it yourself or try the hosted version.
PS: I am one of the maintainers at SigNoz
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#214Stupid question: What open source solution can give me an easy Datadog(ish) experience and is simple to implement?
You should check out SigNoz ( https://github.com/SigNoz/signoz ) - It's an open source alternative to DataDog with metrics, traces and logs in a single application. You can just self host it yourself or try the hosted version. PS: I am one of the maintainers at SigNoz
thanks! That looks really interesting.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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No one, or atleast very few, were sleeping with someone's significant other. Who wants to do that and then be a sitting duck at work where the angry bf/husband can walk in and see you any moment. When the women are ready to leave the bfs, that's when they contact the salesperson. I've seen it happen atleast 10 times, 2 to me personally. Even dated that nightmare for 2 years once. But go ahead and label everything you…
Never mind what was misconstrued or not. The behavior I mentioned is low class. If you feel it applies to you/your experience, whatever, but it’s not a personal jab.
This is a weird way to explain away a mistake. "Ya I totally strawmaned what you said, but look, my point is valid!"
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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That's a bit like asking for an "open source alternative to AWS." It depends what you're looking for: metrics, logs, APM, tracing, synthetics, web analytics, etc.
metrics, APM mostly
The list of targets Micrometer posts to is a good starting point for options:
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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I do a lot of negotiating on products like this. The most I've ever gotten was a shirt and some stickers for my kid. Definitely not enough to move the needle on $250k/year deals. I feel like I'm missing out! I love how good DataDog is. It's a great product. Too expensive though. I love most of the people I've worked with at Grafana Cloud but it's a painful product. The price makes up for it though, so we use Grafana…
> I love most of the people I've worked with at Grafana Cloud but it's a painful product. The price makes up for it though, so we use Grafana Cloud. Hi, I run the Grafana team at Grafana Labs. If you could fix one thing, what would it be?
General usability. DataDog is intuitive and easy. Grafana is rough and requires a solid understanding of statistics and data analytics. The bar for using it is pretty high, so most engineers I know push it to someone else, which means there's one team doing the toil and working on creating simpler abstractions to hide the complexity.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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Datadog startup journey from my perspective: 1. use Datadog, because it gets you a bunch of stuff without having to really set it up, like anomaly detection, which is poor man's monitoring & alerting 2. once you start getting product-market fit and the number of instances you run grows you notice your monthly bill going crazier and crazier and you now have something that starts to resemble an ops team -> migrate to a…
We're going through this now. What other products are out there, preferably easy for a moron to set up?
we're working on one! based on open telemetry (no vendor lock-in) and clickhouse (which makes it cheaper/faster)
it currently supports logs, traces, session replay/RUM, alerts and dashboards - would love to hear what you think :) https://www.hyperdx.io
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#219OpenTelemetry is going to be an existential threat to DataDog and other companies that effectively rely on vendor lock-in to exploit customers. Not sure how companies rationalize these types of services at scale when there are so many open source options to run for a fraction of the cost. You could hire 100+ engineers and still save money compared to a 65M bill https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34540419
OpenTelemetry (or OTel) is in no way an existential threat to DataDog. Primarily because OTel is simply the substrate/protocol by which data is collected from your apps/systems. DD does _a lot_ more than what OTel provides (RUM, SIEM, synthetics, on-call, dashboarding, anomaly detection, and much much more). If anything it's an existential threat to the more legacy vendors that aren't equipped to provide an OTel inge…
> OpenTelemetry (or OTel) is in no way an existential threat to DataDog. Primarily because OTel is simply the substrate/protocol by which data is collected from your apps/systems.
As a vendor building in this space [1] - it definitely is. We're able to onboard teams faster to do side-by-side comparisons because they can simply point their existing Otel telemetry to both us and their existing provider with just a few lines of config. That wasn't possible before otel, and levels the playing field more than before. As otel matures, it'll continue to erode against DD's position.
It also allows us as a company to focus on what users care about (as you mention that's things like dashboarding, search performance, RUM, etc.) as opposed to spending all our time building basic integrations into every platform (though we still do plenty of work to polish places where Otel hasn't). Again, levels the playing field.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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My understanding their stack is Python. So they probably have high costs as well :)
Sentry is python and has extremely reasonable costs (and you can even self-host it). Honestly if you want to complain at the cost of hosting (which, we don't know if they would) then licensing the software and allowing people to self-host would be the solution. $65M is enough that I could fund a team running google's monarch system for 7-8 years.
Oh neat, it's a big Django project!