OpenTelemetry is going to be an existential threat to DataDog and other companies that effectively rely on vendor lock-in to exploit customers. Not sure how companies rationalize these types of services at scale when there are so many open source options to run for a fraction of the cost. You could hire 100+ engineers and still save money compared to a 65M bill
A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#72Having never heard of datadog, Wikipedia’s summary is: > Datadog is an observability service for cloud-scale applications, providing monitoring of servers, databases, tools, and services, through a SaaS-based data analytics platform. So it checks if your servers have crashed or slowed down with a nice dashboard? Any better summaries or descriptions of what it does and how coinbase would have used it?
They also do client side monitoring, log aggregation, and provide metrics for your overall operations (not just when there are performance issues).
They also have quite an unethical sales operation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35837965
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#73Having recently dealt with a surprise runaway DataDog bill and personally completed lots of work to reduce our spend internally all I have to say is that their pricing is outrageously high and there is almost no way to put controls in place to prevent overspend.
If you're considering using them keep that in mind and tbh I would strongly recommend considering if CloudWatch or some other cheaper alternative is suitable for your needs.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#74The internet is mostly machines talking other machines or monitoring what other machines are monitoring. But then you can also pay for machines to watch the machines that watch the machines.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#75Having never heard of datadog, Wikipedia’s summary is: > Datadog is an observability service for cloud-scale applications, providing monitoring of servers, databases, tools, and services, through a SaaS-based data analytics platform. So it checks if your servers have crashed or slowed down with a nice dashboard? Any better summaries or descriptions of what it does and how coinbase would have used it?
it ingests and can help you sort through logs, and also does performance monitoring. I guess I would describe it as prometheus + logstash + powerBI in a single unit.
And with a healthy dose of blue cross bolted on for the surprise bills and difficult bureaucracy.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#76Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…
My understanding their stack is Python. So they probably have high costs as well :)
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#77Having never heard of datadog, Wikipedia’s summary is: > Datadog is an observability service for cloud-scale applications, providing monitoring of servers, databases, tools, and services, through a SaaS-based data analytics platform. So it checks if your servers have crashed or slowed down with a nice dashboard? Any better summaries or descriptions of what it does and how coinbase would have used it?
They also do client side monitoring, log aggregation, and provide metrics for your overall operations (not just when there are performance issues). They also have quite an unethical sales operation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35837965
That's funny, DD is the only company to email my work email, add me as a connection on LinkedIn, txt me over WhatApp, and call my personal phone number multiple times. Amber flag after the LinkedIn connection/message, but red/purple after the WhatsApp/call on my personal phone.
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#78Why do we think this was Coinbase?
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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#79Damn. Why not self-host something on that scale?!
Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call
#80Having never heard of datadog, Wikipedia’s summary is: > Datadog is an observability service for cloud-scale applications, providing monitoring of servers, databases, tools, and services, through a SaaS-based data analytics platform. So it checks if your servers have crashed or slowed down with a nice dashboard? Any better summaries or descriptions of what it does and how coinbase would have used it?
Suppose you have a bunch of k8s clusters, an AWS Organization etc. You just follow a simple setup and see a nice Dashboard with practically every aspect of your infrastructure, from accounts to nodes to pods.