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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by jasonjayr »

jahnu wrote: post #49
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

It's an interesting consideration how frustrating and dangerous non-tactile interfaces can be in cars, and how versatile they can be when you can give them your full attention.

I had always assumed pro-level DAW users would want lots of knobs and sliders to change as many parameters of the sound as easily and quickly as possible.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by rcarr »

gehsty wrote: post #410
rcarr wrote: post #316

I think next month's WWDC and the AR goggles/glasses are really going to define how this decade plays out for Apple. There's clearly some kind of unification strategy going on behind the scenes but whether it's going to be good enough to win out over competitors or not is up in the air. Combos like NReal Air and Samsung Dex/Steam Deck are going to become more and more common and unless they get a move on I can see th…

I think we’ve heard the exact same argument about phones with keyboards, large phones, tablets and web apps (that if apple doesn’t do X they will get left behind, or if Apple doesn’t do Y soon enough they will get left behind), apple has not been left behind. I don’t think the goggles or ‘pro iPad’ will be any different. Apple will release when they are ready and likely they’ll do very well.

Maybe. But I've been buying Apple for over a decade and this is the first year I've considered migrating off the ecosystem. I think AR glasses (not goggles) are going to be the defining hardware tech of the decade and I can see them becoming ubiquitous. If they're planning on releasing the goggles at the rumoured price point ($1500 - $3000) I think people might be tempted to jump ship.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by jamiedumont »

speedgoose wrote: post #403
ww520 wrote: post #374

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I use the free version of Davinci Resolve to edit videos for a few occasions. It's amazingly good. Easy to learn and easy to use. Quite impressive with the feature sets.

The color editor using nodes is particularly powerful, and you can even export .cube LUT files. I now use it to edit my pictures too.

I'd love to hear more about this! I'm a photographer but look on jealously at Davinci. Black Magic got so much right with the design (and business model) of their software. How does it work for images?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by shams93 »

dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

I'll be more excited when they finally can bring over xcode and I can use an ipad to write au plugins.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by trinix912 »

huehehue wrote: post #213
SilverBirch wrote: post #82

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To a certain extent you have to ask what does a one-off purchase of an App mean any more. We got to a point on desktop where you could buy a windows XP application and it'd last forever, and that's fine. Or even a OS X application for several years. But mobile operating systems are still a treadmill. If you buy the app what are you getting? This version and no updates? That's not how iOS works. Will it support future…

I've seen a trend of recording studios using ancient computers with versions of Logic from like 2005, with big signs taped to the wall warning against connecting to the internet or installing any updates. In some ways, the lack of updates can be a feature. I'm sure we've all been frustrated by updates that break our workflows, deprecate useful functionality, or inadvertently degrade performance.

A lot of them are still on Final Cut Pro 7, Soundtrack Pro, Color which don’t work on newer macOS’s. That version of FCP was the last before the magnetic timeline redesign IIRC. Perhaps also the last to work with DV tapes?

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Post by mirkules »

basisword wrote: post #88
rebolek wrote: post #83

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People have different nightmares. My nightmare is yet another subscription.

Then you’re probably not the target market. I would have loved this when I was younger and $5 a month was easy/$200 one off was impossible.

It is usually not billed monthly. They SAY it’s $5/month, but your actual price is $60 right now, for a whole year. That’s a huge difference. You’re paying a good portion of full price, with the “benefit” of having it stop working after a year.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by MentallyRetired »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #379
clint wrote: post #167

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I've been writing and recording music for 25 years. I wouldn't do it on an iPad if the app paid me. If there was ever a job that requires a mouse and multiple screens even more than coding and design, it's audio engineering. Try editing a piano roll with thousands of MIDI notes, adjusting thousands of automation points and fine tuning EQ settings on a touchscreen. The experience is terrible, and no software can fix t…

...but you can use a mouse and keyboard with the iPad. And an external display.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by vuln »

rcarr wrote: post #422
gehsty wrote: post #410

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I think we’ve heard the exact same argument about phones with keyboards, large phones, tablets and web apps (that if apple doesn’t do X they will get left behind, or if Apple doesn’t do Y soon enough they will get left behind), apple has not been left behind. I don’t think the goggles or ‘pro iPad’ will be any different. Apple will release when they are ready and likely they’ll do very well.

Maybe. But I've been buying Apple for over a decade and this is the first year I've considered migrating off the ecosystem. I think AR glasses (not goggles) are going to be the defining hardware tech of the decade and I can see them becoming ubiquitous. If they're planning on releasing the goggles at the rumoured price point ($1500 - $3000) I think people might be tempted to jump ship.

> I think people might be tempted to jump ship.

Jump ship to where? Oculus?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by Shared404 »

znpy wrote: post #342
Someone1234 wrote: post #244

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iOS devices don't support downloading specific versions of apps, and you cannot sideload. Apple has made this model impossible on iOS.

> and you cannot sideload not yet, and most likely just not in the us but due to the european union digital markets act, apple will have to allow for side loading, and somebody was speculating it will only be in the EU.

just not in the US != only in the EU

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by [deleted] »

eclipxe wrote: post #409
IAmGraydon wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been writing and recording music for 25 years. I wouldn't do it on an iPad if the app paid me. If there was ever a job that requires a mouse and multiple screens even more than coding and design, it's audio engineering. Try editing a piano roll with thousands of MIDI notes, adjusting thousands of automation points and fine tuning EQ settings on a touchscreen. The experience is terrible, and no software can fix t…

You haven't used Logic pro on the iPad yet. Maybe reserve judgement until you've tried it? I would actually prefer to draw in automation with a touchscreen/apple pencil vs. mouse. And direct manipulation of effect/instrument knobs as well as mixers is good.

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