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Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by asdajksah2123 »

> “We’re not trying to infringe on anybody’s freedom, but we need to have full attention in the classroom,” said Nancy J. Hines, superintendent in the Penn Hills School District, in the suburbs of Pittsburgh.

It's disappointing that a school superintendent needs to make this statement. School is entirely about infringing about students' "freedoms". No child would be sitting through any class if their freedoms were not highly infringed upon. Learning (at least initially, and for most kids), is not fun. It's boring. And kids don't like boring.

What's disappointing is that parents today also don't seem to understand this basic fact, hence the need for statements like these.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by ido »

Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

Is this an American thing? Here in Germany my son is not allowed to have a phone at school. He doesn't have one anyway, but kids that do have to give up their phones in the morning, which are in a locked box and they get them back in the afternoon when they go home.

Nobody ever asked us about it, it's simply school policy.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by vuln »

rtkwe wrote: post #129
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>active shooter situation I feel like active shooters shouldn't be a situation in a school in the first place.

Sure it shouldn't be but it's the America we have and it's constitutionally difficult to do anything about it with the current interpretation of our second amendment in the Supreme Court.

> constitutionally difficult to do anything about it with the current interpretation of our second amendment in the Supreme Court.

Could you explain what’s “difficult” about “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED?”

It appears to be pretty clear cut to me. I’m not sure how anyone can conclude the opposite.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by Laaas »

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #141

> “We’re not trying to infringe on anybody’s freedom, but we need to have full attention in the classroom,” said Nancy J. Hines, superintendent in the Penn Hills School District, in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. It's disappointing that a school superintendent needs to make this statement. School is entirely about infringing about students' "freedoms". No child would be sitting through any class if their freedoms were no…

> It's boring. And kids don't like boring.

While true, I don't think this _has_ to be the case. Learning can be fun, so can school. But it's probably harder to make _more_ fun than TikTok...

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by qwerpy »

coldpie wrote: post #10
RocketOne wrote: post #8

Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one. If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week. That last one rarely happened as any child who lost a…

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What's "yikes" about that? I'm a parent and I'd love it for a principal to take a hardline stance like that on distractions. Kids (and adults for that matter) can't be trusted to use phones responsibly.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by Brusco_RF »

mdgrech23 wrote: post #86
Octokiddie wrote: post #9

Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

Let's be real - parents want their kids to have phones at school b/c of school shootings.

I'm a parent, and no that's not true at all. How would that even help?

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by Brusco_RF »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #13
ethbr0 wrote: post #2

There's a phrase for something that people can't stop using -- addictive substance. We (and companies) need to ditch the equivocation and be honest about what we created. ( Edit ) > Parents have been split on the issue, with many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency. Is a red herring and justification for helicopter parents to normalize their micromanaging. Someone shouldn't be texting…

>active shooter situation I feel like active shooters shouldn't be a situation in a school in the first place.

And I feel like cars should never crash and there should be no wars famines or tsunamis.

We live in the real world, plan accordingly. Your feelings about it don't matter.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by romwell »

Laaas wrote: post #144
asdajksah2123 wrote: post #141

> “We’re not trying to infringe on anybody’s freedom, but we need to have full attention in the classroom,” said Nancy J. Hines, superintendent in the Penn Hills School District, in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. It's disappointing that a school superintendent needs to make this statement. School is entirely about infringing about students' "freedoms". No child would be sitting through any class if their freedoms were no…

> It's boring. And kids don't like boring. While true, I don't think this _has_ to be the case. Learning can be fun, so can school. But it's probably harder to make _more_ fun than TikTok...

It's not harder as much as it is more expensive.

But looks like paying teachers enough so that they could afford such luxuries as checks note renting an apartment for themselves is off the table.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Post by pupppet »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #90
pupppet wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

74 have been hurt or killed in a school shooting in just 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th... This list says 11 dead and 6 injured in 2023, but I concede that it omits incidents with fewer than 4 dead.

NPR says 74 https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166651590/nashville-school-s...

We're not even counting the shootings in general, like a shooting with no casualties is not something to be concerned about.

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