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Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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There's a phrase for something that people can't stop using -- addictive substance.

We (and companies) need to ditch the equivocation and be honest about what we created.

(Edit) > Parents have been split on the issue, with many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency.

Is a red herring and justification for helicopter parents to normalize their micromanaging.

Someone shouldn't be texting or calling on their cell in an active shooter situation anyway. One phone per teacher/room, with the ability for anyone to dial emergency services, is better.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Separate comment, because I don't want to hijack the archive comment:

>with many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency.

>[...]

>But educators and experts say students need to focus on their surroundings during a crisis, not their cellphones.

It's pleasing to see the rhetoric shift on this one. Hopefully, in a few years, we'll all regard it as a funny mistake that phones were ever allowed in schools.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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This article is super surprising. You mean phones weren't already banned? I would have expected it to be like taking a Game Boy or a laptop into a lesson, instant confiscation until the end of the day.

A many-hundreds-of-dollars device that is the core nexus of all of one's social, parental, scholastic, and entertainment lives, which every student has on them at all times every single day, and which every single adult in the country is glued to at all times during the day, is a very different problem from one or two kids fiddling with GameBoys, yes.

It's a new problem. It's going to take some time & experimentation to find the right balance.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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This article is super surprising. You mean phones weren't already banned? I would have expected it to be like taking a Game Boy or a laptop into a lesson, instant confiscation until the end of the day.

Teachers have lost a lot of power within a generation.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one.

If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week.

That last one rarely happened as any child who lost access for a whole day nearly went into panic mode without their pacifier for an entire day.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe.

At this point, the problem has become too entrenched to actually do anything. Parents have come to the mistaken conclusion that Johnny needs a smartphone to keep in touch during the day (why exactly is a great question). Administrators have more or less given up. And without backup from administrators, teachers are left to fend for themselves. The ones who step in to take phones away, or deal with the problem in any meaningful way face threats to their physical well-being.

The tethering of kids to parents via phones is a tragedy of biblical proportions, but the effects will not be obvious for a few years yet. Education is just the obvious flash point.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one. If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week. That last one rarely happened as any child who lost a…

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