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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by drcongo »

dagmx wrote: post #58
smoldesu wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even as a paying Bitwig subscriber, I don't get it. My instruments are velocity and aftertouch sensitive. Having a touchscreen interface for these instruments is no better than typing on your keyboard to play notes. And then if you want to plug in hardware, you have to either settle for one thing and no charging or buy a dongle. > being able to switch between my live instrument and an on screen virtual one is a big d…

You don’t need to get it. You do you. Every time you’ve replied to one of my comments in the past, it’s been very binary in terms of workflows and the discussions always devolve. So this time I’m leaving it as: I explained why it’s a big deal for me. If you have your own workflows or needs, so be it. But it’s irrelevant to why I like it. I don’t need velocity for a quick idea for example. I just need to get the idea…

I'm with you on every one of your preference points. My own extra one is that I spend all day every day at work on my Mac, when I want to relax and work on music I want to physically separate myself from the thing I do my work on. I embraced touch in the first place just for that, but now I'm infinitely more productive for music on my iPad than I am on desktop. I can reach a state of flow that's just not there when I use Logic on my Mac.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by dagmx »

bartread wrote: post #75
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

GarageBand was always pretty decent on iPad back in the day, at least as a scratchpad for ideas. But yes, this is exciting. I'd quite like to see something like Ableton or Bitwig make its way onto iPad as well.

Ableton on iPad would be such a great fit, especially the session clip view.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by jeroenhd »

samstave wrote: post #110
nxpnsv wrote: post #80

I guess my mac logic pro license won’t cover the iPad version, right?

This has always bothered me, in general, take games for example ; if I pay $70 for a game on the PS5, why cant I run same game on my PC? I bought the game, not the platform. FU - I am paying for running the 'license' of the game on a given GPU/CPU? its Oracle Licensing policy, recall when Oracle tied your DB lic to a CPU? Fuck that.

You didn't even buy a game, you but a license to a game. One that often can't even be resold like normal licensed wares.

Luckily, piracy remains an option if you're willing to download patches manually.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by rajbot »

Although I understand the reasoning, I’m sad to see the move to subscription pricing.

I bought Final Cut and Logic a long time ago in the Mac App Store, and now my kids get to use them through Family Sharing. One of them has written hundreds of songs in Logic and published an album.

The one-time purchase of Final Cut and Logic with Family Sharing and a lifetime of upgrades has been such an unbelievable value for such powerful software.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by rchaud »

basisword wrote: post #64

So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A…

Kids aren't creating on iPads though. The only tools needed are TikTok/Snapchat + filters. Beyond that, it starts to feel like work.

YouTubers making 'long form' video (> 5 mins) also aren't going to buy an iPad when their computer does the job just fine. And even then, Mac owners don't necessarily use Final Cut; Adobe Premiere and Davinci Resolve are enormously popular.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by anaganisk »

carlosjobim wrote: post #72
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

Aren't our supplies already a subscription? Like we don't purchase lifetime, and we already have credit cards/Monthly installments for any big purchases, at least in my country EMI(Easy monthly installments) is already huge.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by coldtea »

smoldesu wrote: post #50
dagmx wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I should expand why not a laptop, but it boils down to removing lots of little friction points that make ephemeral ideas harder to put down. 1. Touch first is important because your instruments are touch as well. Being able to record my live instruments and not have to switch to a trackpad to move between UI elements seems small, but it really keeps me in the zone. 2. Same point above, but basically being abl…

Even as a paying Bitwig subscriber, I don't get it. My instruments are velocity and aftertouch sensitive. Having a touchscreen interface for these instruments is no better than typing on your keyboard to play notes. And then if you want to plug in hardware, you have to either settle for one thing and no charging or buy a dongle. > being able to switch between my live instrument and an on screen virtual one is a big d…

>Even as a paying Bitwig subscriber, I don't get it. My instruments are velocity and aftertouch sensitive

So what? You can get an idea down without either. It's not about making the final performance (though you can also program the DAW piano-roll this way just fine too).

>And then if you want to plug in hardware, you have to either settle for one thing and no charging or buy a dongle.

God forbid you have to buy a $20 dongle, or like, just use the device without one, and enjoy merely 10 hours of use instead of 15.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by rchaud »

rajbot wrote: post #135

Although I understand the reasoning, I’m sad to see the move to subscription pricing. I bought Final Cut and Logic a long time ago in the Mac App Store, and now my kids get to use them through Family Sharing. One of them has written hundreds of songs in Logic and published an album. The one-time purchase of Final Cut and Logic with Family Sharing and a lifetime of upgrades has been such an unbelievable value for such…

I'm against subscriptions generally, but $50/yr is significantly cheaper than the $299 for Final Cut Pro X or whatever it is they offered previously.
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