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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by NexRebular »

dagmx wrote: post #66
NexRebular wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There already has been a DAW on the go for a while. It's even multiplatform with iOS and Android. https://www.steinberg.net/cubasis/

True, I didn’t mean to imply that there wasn’t and I thought I’d alluded to that by mentioning the other recording apps on the iPhone. However I’m a Logic Pro user. Cubase is great but it just never clicked with me as much as Logic did. I’ve gone through a majority of the DAWs on macOS but Logic Pro and Live were the only ones that really stuck for me. Obviously purely subjective. I edited my comment above to reflect…

Subjective indeed. I usually dabble in Nuendo and have pretty much all Steinberg workflow with Dorico in the mix too (also on iPad).

I really should check out Logic too one of these days, but as it's a mixed environment in the "studio" with Mac OS and Windows these multiplatform apps make life a bit easier for now.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by pier25 »

Kognito wrote: post #56
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

Interesting change, I do wonder if the Mac apps will follow suit.

That was my thinking too.

I don't know about Final Cut, but I do know lots of Logic users in the media composing world. Some will keep using it no matter what but plenty will leave for Cubase or Studio One if Apple forces a subscription on them. And Logic is probably the reason they buy Macs for producing music...

It would be a terrible move by Apple.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

Curzel wrote: post #38

I don't get it. People have been wondering when this would happen since the very first iPad Pro, so lots of people will be happy now... Even assuming all the required horse power is there, I still don't get it... Maybe I'm getting old.

There are a few reasons that I am excited for this, none of which have to do with actually using logic pro or final cut on an ipad.

1. This is an excellent signal that iPads can get "real" software now, hopefully more companies start porting their desktop mac software to iPadOS

2. Apple will continute to keep MacOS and iPadOS separate rather than trying to combine them like a lot of people on the internet think they want, which is good.

3. WWDC is going to be an absolute banger this year if they are announcing something like this in a press release.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by NickC25 »

mortenjorck wrote: post #45
NickC25 wrote: post #28

Neat....although sad that it's via a subscription model, rather than buying the program outright. That said, what's the point of this? Everyone works off laptops already, even people new to A/V production. Especially in the audio world, laptops are just so much more convenient because you can host 3rd party plugins and other stuff like sample libraries. Can't do that on an iPad, can you?

There is a whole audio plugin ecosystem on iOS (AUv3), but I think your point still stands. Anecdotally, I use my iPad for music production, but it’s a very different kind of context and process from what I do on my Mac. On the laptop, I’m typically producing full tracks in Ableton Live, while on my iPad, it’s more “jamming” in apps like Drambo or AUM, something closer in spirit to a “DAWless” hardware setup. Logic P…

I use iMaschine, GarageBand and occasionally FL Studio Mobile on my iPhone. All great apps, but all are limited. Can't beat using Live on the desktop/laptop.

Great for getting one's feet wet, or for ideas that spring to mind when you hear something cool on the street or on the train or whatever. Hear something, record it, manipulate it, and make a quick beat or riff on the spot.

However, like you, that's just a small part of the process, and if one wants to do something more with the sound they recorded, it needs to be moved to a more powerful platform - in this case a laptop. A DAW on the iPad is neat, but kind of stuck between usecases.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by spankalee »

Logic will do for now, but I really want MainStage for the iPad. MainStage is one of the best collections of synths you can get, much less for $29, and being able to gig with it small touch-screen hardware like an iPad mini would be incredible. I'm all in on Android, but would but an iPad just for music.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by criddell »

dmreedy wrote: post #44
spacephysics wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many readers here probably understand from first hand experience, software isn’t a final product (typically). The majority of software requires maintenance and any ongoing feature updates have a continual cost on the company. If they asked for a subscription and said, no more updates after tomorrow, then sure that’s Bs. But especially for something like Final Cut, you’ll get continual updates and feature improveme…

I don't think the concern is that the subscription doesn't bring value. Just that it builds no equity. Once the renting agreement ends, you lose all the access you once had, not just access to future things to come. (edit: I don't know if this is actually true of Final Cut Pro's model)

That's true but I think a lot of professional users prefer the service model for cash flow (and maybe tax?) reasons. For those users, maybe a monthly service fee is better than purchasing?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by samstave »

dagmx wrote: post #29
meghan_rain wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

I guess I should expand why not a laptop, but it boils down to removing lots of little friction points that make ephemeral ideas harder to put down. 1. Touch first is important because your instruments are touch as well. Being able to record my live instruments and not have to switch to a trackpad to move between UI elements seems small, but it really keeps me in the zone. 2. Same point above, but basically being abl…

have the UX such that you can have multiple screens that you swipe btwn... such that you can add screens for DRUM MACHINE 1 through N and you just swipe btwn them... and swipe up or down for media access and other screens.

it would be cool to have both apps (final cut for vids and logic for trax) running at the same time with "integration" such that you can swipe btwn video and sound editing on the same final output...

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by pdpi »

anotherman554 wrote: post #67
pdpi wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Current-gen 12" iPad Pro is 1.5 lbs to the MacBook Air's 2.7 lbs. That's a considerable weight difference still.

You aren't going to use a keyboard case?

for music production? I can see how you'd carry a midi keyboard but no keyboard for typing.
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