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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by mannyv »

ancientworldnow wrote: post #12
retskrad wrote: post #2

I’m sorry but not even the actors in the promo video in this announcement can sell the idea that video editing on a touch device is a good idea. No professional video editor will use Final Cut on the iPad. It’s horribly ineffcient. It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. The product hasn’t evolved at all since 2018.

No serious professional wants to use FCP in the first place.

From what I understand a large number of video people are wedding/event people...which makes sense, because there aren't that many TV shows. While I doubt they'll be editing on-site, now they can with their IPP instead of their MBP.

People work where they want to and jow they want to. If the tool works for you, go for it.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by NexRebular »

dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

There already has been a DAW on the go for a while. It's even multiplatform with iOS and Android.

https://www.steinberg.net/cubasis/

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by basisword »

So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A subscription makes it affordable for the people who are going to use it on a tablet. The same thought applies for teenagers trying to make YouTube videos. Now they can legally and easily use the professional tools on hardware they already own.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by eurekin »

jahnu wrote: post #49
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

Please consider supporting multi touch, where it makes sense

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by dagmx »

NexRebular wrote: post #62
dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

There already has been a DAW on the go for a while. It's even multiplatform with iOS and Android. https://www.steinberg.net/cubasis/

True, I didn’t mean to imply that there wasn’t and I thought I’d alluded to that by mentioning the other recording apps on the iPhone.

However I’m a Logic Pro user. Cubase is great but it just never clicked with me as much as Logic did. I’ve gone through a majority of the DAWs on macOS but Logic Pro and Live were the only ones that really stuck for me.

Obviously purely subjective. I edited my comment above to reflect my DAW preference factors in.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by anotherman554 »

pdpi wrote: post #34
meghan_rain wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

Current-gen 12" iPad Pro is 1.5 lbs to the MacBook Air's 2.7 lbs. That's a considerable weight difference still.

You aren't going to use a keyboard case?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by tigeroil »

Kognito wrote: post #56
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

Interesting change, I do wonder if the Mac apps will follow suit.

My guess, based on the fact that Logic Pro and FCP, in the nicest way I can say this, haven't had any meaningful core upgrades in a while, is that they're planning some fairly major updates on macOS for both and the plan is to release them as new, subscription-only versions later this year.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by jcpst »

brookst wrote: post #13
nottorp wrote: post #4

They're also bringing the subscription pricing model...

I'd much rather pay $50/year and get perpetual updates than the old price of $199 one time. Yes, I'd rather pay $5 one time and get free updates forever, but I just can't see complaining about $4/month for anything I get ongoing value from.

Interesting- I'd much rather pay the perpetual fee.

At home, I run a 13 year old Mac Mini in my studio. Everything DAW related on it still works, and it's all compatible with each other. This is quite common in many studios I've worked in. It's not unusual to be running 10-15+ year old machines. Everything is updated as far as it's ever going to go on that hardware.

I do like the Jetbrains model where there is a perpetual fallback license. It think that would be a good balance for software like DAWs.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by smoldesu »

dagmx wrote: post #58
smoldesu wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even as a paying Bitwig subscriber, I don't get it. My instruments are velocity and aftertouch sensitive. Having a touchscreen interface for these instruments is no better than typing on your keyboard to play notes. And then if you want to plug in hardware, you have to either settle for one thing and no charging or buy a dongle. > being able to switch between my live instrument and an on screen virtual one is a big d…

You don’t need to get it. You do you. Every time you’ve replied to one of my comments in the past, it’s been very binary in terms of workflows and the discussions always devolve. So this time I’m leaving it as: I explained why it’s a big deal for me. If you have your own workflows or needs, so be it. But it’s irrelevant to why I like it. I don’t need velocity for a quick idea for example. I just need to get the idea…

All that's well and good, I'm mostly just agreeing with the people who suggest a Macbook for this. The iPad runs iOS, it's gimped for all kinds of creative applications. I won't judge you if you've found a workflow to apply it to, but the status quo feels unchanged. Professional DAWs existed on iPad before, the world beneath our feet didn't crumble or anything.

> Besides, you can always connect an external midi keyboard or audio interface to an iPad as well.

Sure? Everyone can use class-compliant USB audio hardware. Android and Linux both support it, for whatever that's worth. Both of those OSes even support audio plugins, too.

Not everyone can install MPE drivers or get that Focusrite interface set up properly without software though. That's why I still carry a laptop, it may not apply to everyone.

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