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Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one. If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week. That last one rarely happened as any child who lost a…

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Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one. If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week. That last one rarely happened as any child who lost a…

At my son's school, they all have to put the phones in the 'phone hotel' at the beginning of the day and pick them up at the end. Sorta worked, until the kids all just started bringing in old phones to drop in the phone hotel and keep their actual phones with them. That and the Apple watches and chromebooks mean pretty much no kid has any trouble doing whatever they want even without their phones.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Parents have not idea whatsoever of the destruction that phones have wrought on the education system, both in the large and in the small. Students who claim otherwise are gaslighting their parents. Parents are unfortunately all too willing to believe the lies because of course their child is above average and would never completely tune out of class for another hit on the electronic crack pipe. At this point, the pro…

> Parents have come to the mistaken conclusion that Johnny needs a smartphone to keep in touch during the day (why exactly is a great question).

My wife's had parents call their kids in class. Just to, like, chat.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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When phone addiction gets brought up, someone usually says that phones just serve the same function newspapers used to. I don't remember being in high school and everyone in class was reading the newspaper instead of paying attention to the teacher. Or that they would carry a spare newspaper in case one of their newspapers was confiscated.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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There's a phrase for something that people can't stop using -- addictive substance. We (and companies) need to ditch the equivocation and be honest about what we created. ( Edit ) > Parents have been split on the issue, with many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency. Is a red herring and justification for helicopter parents to normalize their micromanaging. Someone shouldn't be texting…

> Is a red herring and justification for helicopter parents to normalize their micromanaging. We live in Plano, TX, just a few minutes south of the Allen Outlet massacre. Yesterday my son texted me at noon "Shooting threat at school" and "It’s a rumor though but a lot of people are leaving anyway". You can bet your life I was in my car and speeding down the street to get him out ASAP within 60 seconds of receiving th…

So how in heavens did your country manage to survive the 300 years prior to 2008?

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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A relative of mine, Substitute-teacher (usually inner city), brings a "mesh pocket shoe hanger" to each classroom. During roll call, each kid must show the phone is off, and she hand writes (in cursive) the child's name on a piece of masking tape across the screen and back, while noting which kids phone was put in which pocket. The kids are allowed to have their phone back at the dismissal bell, and not a second earlier. She allows the kids to send a text to their parents letting them know their phone will be off for the day, and if an email list is provided, also informs parents that any emergencies should be directed at her phone or the school office.

Obviously this creates quite a reputation with kids and school administrators... but what is a surprising is the occasional protest from parents wanting to talk to their kids all day. Her stance is "take it or leave it, I'm not changing", and she doesn't always get invited back by certain schools.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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There's a phrase for something that people can't stop using -- addictive substance. We (and companies) need to ditch the equivocation and be honest about what we created. ( Edit ) > Parents have been split on the issue, with many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency. Is a red herring and justification for helicopter parents to normalize their micromanaging. Someone shouldn't be texting…

I agree that phones/apps/social media/video games are addictive (the ones that aren't just don't get popular) but I disagree with your proposed framework for identifying "addictive" things for children in schools. Schools are very artificial environments with a massive lack of stimulation and self-agency for young developing human children. Damn near anything is "addictive" in that environment - books, doodling, orig…

Reminds me of a rat study that I forget the details on, but essentially they gave cocaine to rats in a sterile basic cage, and they went ham

Then years later, a researcher refuted the claim of the original landmark study (regarding addition), by giving the rats a sanctuary with other rats, area to roam, basically a mini park, I believe the rats either didn’t take the cocaine, or did it once and didn’t like it after.

Addition isn’t in a vacuum. Anything can be addicting. It’s the environment that matters as well.

Soldiers coming back from Vietnam were doing opium like mad, to a point where the US government was preparing for an opioid epidemic (ironic now), then found that rates of opium addiction were FAR below than perceived, most likely cause the soldiers weren’t fighting in a terrifying jungle 1000’s of miles away in a war forced upon them that was a losing battle.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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Its overdue. As a principal I used to ban phones in our school. Back before every kid had one. If they were caught playing on them or if it rang during class, the phone went to the teacher's desk til the end of class. If it happened a second time, it came to my office til the end of the day. And a 3rd violation meant it stayed in my office til the end of the week. That last one rarely happened as any child who lost a…

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Don't worry. I've seen lot of school administration treat students as things to be controlled, not people.

Re: Students can’t get off their phones. Schools have had enough

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> many critics insisting their children need phones in case of an emergency The school could always call the parent, or the parent could always call the school, right? Does the minute it might take the kid to answer the phone at the teacher's desk or walk to the office make that much of a difference? The only way I see this being something that's truly time critical is if they're using "emergency" as a euphemism for…

> The only way I see this being something that's truly time critical is if they're using "emergency" as a euphemism for school shooting.

Parents are regularly getting notified about school shootings several minutes before the police. I absolutely do not want a school taking my kid's phone in this increasingly common case.

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