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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I'm positively surprised by the pricing. While I still prefer outright buying apps instead of subscriptions, last time I paid €230 for Logic on desktop (and it used to cost even more), this new sub would take four years to match that. This massively lowers the cost of entry especially for countries with devalued currency against the USD.

And 199$ is already an insanely good deal for what you get.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

The 11-inch iPad (Pro) is much more compact, imo. You can also just mount it flat against some hardware in a rack, or against a wall in a small studio booth.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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The iPad is no longer touch-only. Since Apple added support for pencil, mouse/trackpad and brought out more keyboards, the iPad is a multi-model input device.

True but it's not very good as a laptop replacement. It's much more expensive than an Air and can't run the same apps. While doing my research it seemed a lot of people either already had a laptop or preferred to have a laptop if they had to pick one. This is coming from a Surface 5 user - I gave up eventually because it was never powerful enough, but it is a much better approach to multi-input laptop replacement sin…

I don't really see the iPad as a laptop replacement. My laptop (MBA) is a mobile workstation. I have a Mac Mini as a work computer, and I view my laptop as the mobile equivalent. But if I only need to consume content or do tasks like writing, drawing, or quick editing in this case, it's a suitable device. The reduced multitasking is a plus in this case, and I wish that Space and Stage Manager on the laptop were not that clunky.

N.B. I have the iPad Air 4, and it's quite light compared to the MBA. And I can use a smaller bag when going out.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

Current-gen 12" iPad Pro is 1.5 lbs to the MacBook Air's 2.7 lbs. That's a considerable weight difference still.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I'd much rather pay $50/year and get perpetual updates than the old price of $199 one time. Yes, I'd rather pay $5 one time and get free updates forever, but I just can't see complaining about $4/month for anything I get ongoing value from.

You like losing access when you cancel the subscription? Or when an older device is cut off from the app store?

As many readers here probably understand from first hand experience, software isn’t a final product (typically).

The majority of software requires maintenance and any ongoing feature updates have a continual cost on the company.

If they asked for a subscription and said, no more updates after tomorrow, then sure that’s Bs.

But especially for something like Final Cut, you’ll get continual updates and feature improvements, and you get recurring value.

I’m all for FOSS, but there are many cases where the paid incentive version is far better than open offerings, and that’s just how it is today.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I’m sorry but not even the actors in the promo video in this announcement can sell the idea that video editing on a touch device is a good idea. No professional video editor will use Final Cut on the iPad. It’s horribly ineffcient. It feels like Apple has no idea what to do with the iPad Pro. The product hasn’t evolved at all since 2018.

> No professional video editor will use Final Cut on the iPad

Maybe it's for other people then?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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yeah, because you want to use the internal speaker while watching the video on a projector screen ... I understand what you are saying, and it sucks indeed, but there are other systems that have exactly the same 'problem' and in real life this is a problem for the minority of people. apple sells to the masses, and they will do what the majority of the people want/need/use. Sure, it sux if you dont fit in that group,…

It's a problem for anyone trying to give a presentation in an educational or office environment - local sound solutions on projectors in small offices and small classrooms are often (probably 70% of the time in my experience) non functional.

iPad speakers in a classroom is not going to cut it, they are nowhere near powerful enough. in an office environment you can use the tv audio, or the video conferencing unit (in my experience even a 10man shop has those). again, for the very small percentage of people that fall outside of the 'masses' it is a problem, and I totally understand that. But none of the big brands care about the use cases that are not the masses. So you can blame apple, but look around and blame all the others as well.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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I'm still a bit skeptical about Logic's ability to be a full-featured DAW on the iPad. The move is great, but we need to tackle several challenges to make it suitable for final editing rather than just a work support tool:

- It needs to have open and comprehensive plugin support

- The workflow for uploading and exporting content needs to be seamless, and the iPad OS is still limited in this regard

- Screen size and real estate are still a concern

- Ready-to-use ecosystems for operating with the iPad, such as interfaces, audio monitors, etc., need to be developed.

I love the idea of being able to record, create, edit, and mix on the go, but I've kind of moved away from the DAW paradigm on tablets. Today, I focus my workflow on a Dawless idea, with the M8, Digitakt, Organelle, OP-1, and several other devices. More expensive? Definitely! But it fits my creative mode.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Have you seen the magic keyboard accessory? With the trackpad and keyboard?

At the ridiculous price they are charging for it, it might as well not exist.

While the price might be ridiculous for you, the price is not ridiculous for the people in the market for it.
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