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I worked at Coinbase until very recently and can confirm this is Coinbase They paid upfront for 3 years of usage, and yes they were burning > $20m/year on datadog
Okay, it seemed like it was 1 year.
So, only insane, not insane^2.
Stupid question: What open source solution can give me an easy Datadog(ish) experience and is simple to implement?
It depends what you're looking for: metrics, logs, APM, tracing, synthetics, web analytics, etc.
OpenTelemetry is going to be an existential threat to DataDog and other companies that effectively rely on vendor lock-in to exploit customers. Not sure how companies rationalize these types of services at scale when there are so many open source options to run for a fraction of the cost. You could hire 100+ engineers and still save money compared to a 65M bill https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34540419
As mentioned in some other places in the thread, DataDog pricing is very unpredictable and high - and I think more open standards based solutions are the way forward which provides users more predictability and flexibility
Stupid question: What open source solution can give me an easy Datadog(ish) experience and is simple to implement?
That's a bit like asking for an "open source alternative to AWS." It depends what you're looking for: metrics, logs, APM, tracing, synthetics, web analytics, etc.
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Their sales team is a nightmare, I had to block them on personal and company email.
Just wait until they find your personal cell phone number and try to force you into scheduling a "time that works" on the calendar.
That said, managing observability yourself should result in <5% of cloud spend. So I'm figuring someone at Coinbase said "WTF" to this bill and migrated to Grafana/Loki or Kibana/OpenSearch or Kibana/Elastic. Well, that, and Coinbase's business also dropped off a cliff. Combined, I could easily see a one-time influx of $65M from one customer, gone the next quarter.
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Datadog startup journey from my perspective: 1. use Datadog, because it gets you a bunch of stuff without having to really set it up, like anomaly detection, which is poor man's monitoring & alerting 2. once you start getting product-market fit and the number of instances you run grows you notice your monthly bill going crazier and crazier and you now have something that starts to resemble an ops team -> migrate to a…
We're going through this now. What other products are out there, preferably easy for a moron to set up?
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Datadog startup journey from my perspective: 1. use Datadog, because it gets you a bunch of stuff without having to really set it up, like anomaly detection, which is poor man's monitoring & alerting 2. once you start getting product-market fit and the number of instances you run grows you notice your monthly bill going crazier and crazier and you now have something that starts to resemble an ops team -> migrate to a…
We're going through this now. What other products are out there, preferably easy for a moron to set up?
PS: I am one of the maintainers at SigNoz
Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…
Datadog costs more to monitor your AWS t3.medium instance than the actual instance. I asked them how them can justify that. They recommended I use "modern infrastructure" which means Docker.
Also: it’s 2023. Every company needs to be getting compatible with open standards like OpenTelemetry, Prometheus, etc.