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A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by TOMDM »

torbTurret wrote: post #116
nicenewtemp84 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ive worked in sales for over 10 years. Incel is a weird insult for salespeople, as I've never met a group of people that sleeps around more than salespeople. I spent years selling cars even, and if you bring a gf or wife you're having trouble with to go car shopping... Odds of her later sleeping with the car salesman are not zero to put it mildly.

Nowadays, incel is synonymous with the Andrew Tate “top g”/alpha sex obsession. Backwards? Definitely, but more symbolic of the arrested development/lack of maturity than the lack of sex. Sleeping with others’ significant others, or actively trying to/bragging about it is a perfect example. Low-class behavior that will get you props from low-class folks.

I've certainly heard that fans of Andrew Tate are incels, or that their world view and advice is built for incels, but I've not heard of many people calling Andrew Tate himself an incel.

An incel maker though for sure.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by hartator »

unstatusthequo wrote: post #109
tcas wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait until they find your personal cell phone number and try to force you into scheduling a "time that works" on the calendar.

I have started invoicing companies for wasting my time and also threatening them with CAN-SPAM complaints for failing to include an opt-out, an actual mailing address, etc. Then, when my invoice isn’t paid, I threaten collections on them personally and the company. Usually that solves it. Then I’m “such a dick” but highly effective in recovering my time.

Please make this into an automated business.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by thinkmassive »

coinbasethrow wrote: post #90

I worked at Coinbase until very recently and can confirm this is Coinbase They paid upfront for 3 years of usage, and yes they were burning > $20m/year on datadog

So you’re saying it’s $65 million over three years?

The headline seems misleading, like it’s for a single month.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by Rapzid »

legohead wrote: post #62

Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…

This is the company that released synthetic API checks at like 100X the price of Pingdom checks. Ended up using their free Pingdom integration to pull in the check data..

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by hartator »

dijit wrote: post #95
winrid wrote: post #76

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My understanding their stack is Python. So they probably have high costs as well :)

Sentry is python and has extremely reasonable costs (and you can even self-host it). Honestly if you want to complain at the cost of hosting (which, we don't know if they would) then licensing the software and allowing people to self-host would be the solution. $65M is enough that I could fund a team running google's monarch system for 7-8 years.

I thought Sentry was Ruby?

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by Hamuko »

paulddraper wrote: post #110
legohead wrote: post #62

Datadog prices are out of this world. I assumed their front facing prices were for the lone dev, so when I reached out as a company looking to integrate multiple of their products I expected a deal, and got very little compromise. I told them up front they were going to have to cut prices by 90% for us to consider them -- no budge. And they are pretty belligerent salesman, not wanting to leave me alone. After a while…

Datadog costs more to monitor your AWS t3.medium instance than the actual instance. I asked them how them can justify that. They recommended I use "modern infrastructure" which means Docker.

Was Datadog pricing per-host? If so, then I guess running a Kubernetes cluster using the biggest available instances is the most "modern" solution to Datadog-using infrastructure.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by davidw »

I feel nostalgic for the days of grepping logs in some ways.

At a previous company, we had DD, and I got asked to find some problem. I was able to sift through the data in it and zero in on the instance and find the bad data that came in.

Then it got expensive and so they turned on 'sampling' and the next time I was asked to look for a particular problem, we had no idea if it was even logged.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by nicenewtemp84 »

torbTurret wrote: post #116
nicenewtemp84 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ive worked in sales for over 10 years. Incel is a weird insult for salespeople, as I've never met a group of people that sleeps around more than salespeople. I spent years selling cars even, and if you bring a gf or wife you're having trouble with to go car shopping... Odds of her later sleeping with the car salesman are not zero to put it mildly.

Nowadays, incel is synonymous with the Andrew Tate “top g”/alpha sex obsession. Backwards? Definitely, but more symbolic of the arrested development/lack of maturity than the lack of sex. Sleeping with others’ significant others, or actively trying to/bragging about it is a perfect example. Low-class behavior that will get you props from low-class folks.

No one, or atleast very few, were sleeping with someone's significant other. Who wants to do that and then be a sitting duck at work where the angry bf/husband can walk in and see you any moment. When the women are ready to leave the bfs, that's when they contact the salesperson. I've seen it happen atleast 10 times, 2 to me personally. Even dated that nightmare for 2 years once.

But go ahead and label everything you misconstrued as low class.

Re: A cryptocurrency company had a $65M bill, per Datadog’s Q1 earnings call

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Post by rch »

ricardobeat wrote: post #85
ren_engineer wrote: post #71

OpenTelemetry is going to be an existential threat to DataDog and other companies that effectively rely on vendor lock-in to exploit customers. Not sure how companies rationalize these types of services at scale when there are so many open source options to run for a fraction of the cost. You could hire 100+ engineers and still save money compared to a 65M bill https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34540419

I’ve seen an attempted move from DD to OT and it was a nightmare of undocumented features and little compounded issues. Tracing was non functional. It doesn’t seem mature enough yet.

There's some purposeful friction with DD when it comes to OTel.

Incumbents in this space are in for a rough time as more applications provide meaningful telemetry, beyond just logs. Fortunately for them that timeline is 'fuzzy' at best.

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