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New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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I think I heard this in some Peter Attia podcast. The kidneys turn salt into fructose as far as I know. When u're diabetic and you consume salt it's much better to have it in liquid form. I don't think the reasons are known, but it doesn't raise the serum sodium as much.

None of what parent said in any way resembles how kidneys or even biology in general functions.

The parent may be referring to Peter Attia's talk with Dr. Rick Johnson in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbSic4Oo8ME

Dr. Johnson doesn't mention what organ in the body performs the conversion, but he does mention that high serum sodium activates an enzyme which converts glucose to fructose.

Fructose, in high amounts, causes high uric acid, leading to inflammation, insulin resistance, and causes the body to switch from fat-burning to fat storage (bears and migrating birds will increase their fructose consumption before hibernating/migrating).

According to Dr. Johnson, if you eat some food and feel thirsty, that indicates that your body has already started converting glucose to fructose internally. Drinking enough liquid to keep the serum sodium from increasing will prevent this conversion.

from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3833672/ (Dr. Johnson is a co-authour of this article) "... activation of aldose reductase in the liver with conversion of glucose to fructose"

Then I found this article, https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijn/2011/392708/, which states that "The increase in dietary fructose intake stimulates salt absorption in the small intestine and kidney proximal tubule through coordinated activation of PAT1, NHE3, and Glut5. We propose that reducing dietary intake of fructose and salt, as well as maneuvers aimed at inhibiting fructose absorption in the intestine and kidney tubules, could have profound beneficial effect on controlling blood pressure in patients with metabolic syndrome."

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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imo, the biggest contributor is soda. soda is roughly half as many grams of sugar as ice cream, but eating half a soda bottle of ice cream would make most people puke

A can of coke has 39g of sugar. A 14oz Haagen Dazs vanilla bean ice cream contains 32g per serving and 84g in the entire 14oz container. A 2L bottle of Coke contains 220g of sugar. So half a bottle is less than 1.5 ice creams.

39g/355ml[1] is almost exactly half (54%) of 84g/414ml.

So Coke is indeed half the volumetric sugar content of ice cream. However, I think I probably could fairly handily eat half a Coke-can's worth of ice cream! Half a 2L-bottle's worth of ice cream (1L) would not end well, whereas 2L of Coke is a lot but definitely possible.

[1] Had never realised US cans were slightly larger than what we have (330ml).

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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My personal, unsubstantiated opinion is that the food most people eat is now full of substances and chemicals that weren't there 50 years ago. A huge example is high fructose corn syrup. Almost everything is sweetened with that instead of cane sugar. Food manufacturers IMO only care about making food cheap, making us crave it, and making it last a long time on the shelf. They aren't concerned about making sure it is…

Sucralose (Splenda) increases insulin resistance.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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My personal, unsubstantiated opinion is that the food most people eat is now full of substances and chemicals that weren't there 50 years ago. A huge example is high fructose corn syrup. Almost everything is sweetened with that instead of cane sugar. Food manufacturers IMO only care about making food cheap, making us crave it, and making it last a long time on the shelf. They aren't concerned about making sure it is…

this makes me so sad. I can't eat anything sweet and the one thing I found that I seem to tolerate well to a degree is sweetened with sucralose, sweet is addictive... I just ate 8 apples today when I lost control and I'm going to pay the price the next few days (food intolerance)

I have oral allergy syndrome and get a reaction when I eat a bunch of different fruits raw. I'm allergic to fucking apples. LOL

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Serious question: what is the evidence that type 2 diabetes is caused by diet? I’ve seen this assertion made universally, but never any explanation of its scientific root.

Type two diabetes is caused by hormonal imbalances. If you eat sugar or refined carbs, they get absorbed into the blood stream quickly and spike your blood sugar levels. Your body does a panic reaction where it releases insulin to force the excess glucose into your fat cells. Afterwards you might end up with low blood sugar and feel hungry again. Repeat this often enough and you can get type two diabetes at any body weight as your body becomes less and less responsive to the insulin.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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This isn't true. You should eat whole grains. Plenty of them. Go nuts.

The question is, literal whole grains or milled whole grains turned into dough?

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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The linked 'scientific' paper is just embarrassing. From the study design "A comparative risk assessment model estimated the numbers, proportions and uncertainty of global T2D cases attributable to suboptimal intake of key dietary factors." That's it, that's the whole paper, reporting what the risk assessment model estimated.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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I've been suffering from hypoglycemia for a good part of my life, and recently the episodes have started to become a bit more frequent (a bad hypoglycemia episode is like an incredibly horrifying panic attack). Trying to figure out WTF is going on with me has been daunting, everyone tells me to eat more sugar or more complex carbs which just seems to repeat the cycle. No one wants to test me, or knows what to test me…

Perhaps I can share my personal experience. I have always felt tired/ crashed after having sugary foods. Sugary cakes & chocolate can leave me feeling pretty unpleasant. It might have been workable if eating more restored my mental state, but it didn't.

I figured this out in my twenties, stopped eating convenience food with sugar (cookies, sweet crackers, instant noodles, breakfast cereals), and instantly felt better.

I eat a high-protein breakfast of multigrain toast, avocado, cottage cheese, red onion and ham.

When you eat decent food with protein and vegetables you won't have cravings any more for sugary rubbish.

I snack on roast nuts (no peanuts), eat slightly more often and, for a pick-me-up in the afternoon, eat a small sandwich/ piece of sushi/ etc.

I am occasional only with desserts, cakes and ice-cream; typically only after dinner. Quality makes a big difference; quality cakes for example are mainly eggs, butter, chocolate and a bit of sugar whereas cheap cakes are sugar sugar sugar, refined flour and artificial flavours. Protein and fat seem to help stabilize the effects of dietary sugar on my blood sugar levels and mood.

My personal experience, YMMV.

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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"Of the 11 dietary factors considered, three had an outsized contribution to the rising global incidence of type 2 diabetes: Insufficient intake of whole grains, excesses of refined rice and wheat, and the overconsumption of processed meat. Factors such as drinking too much fruit juice and not eating enough non-starchy vegetables, nuts, or seeds, had less of an impact on new cases of the disease. “Our study suggests…

Correlation does not equal causation. Diets high in red meat and fat have been the norm for most of human history, yet diabetes has only become an epidemic in recent decades. The real culprits are the processed foods and sedentary lifestyles of modern life, not traditional diets.

Red meat consumption in the US may be down compared to the 70s, but I'm pretty sure it's up compared to the human average 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000 and 50000 years ago.

Overall meat consumption (per capita per year) in the US has increased continuously and quite significantly from around 90kg in 1960 to around 120kg in 2000 and stable since then.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/datablog/2009/sep/02...

Re: New study: 70% of type 2 diabetes cases linked to food choices

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Unless there's an easy solution most of us are just going to die from this. I can't battle the market that wants to feed me supersized everything because that's where they can hide the cost of wages and offer an illusion of value. It needs to be tasty (enough), it needs to be cheap (at least enough to compete with the crap food that's already an option), and it needs to be an option everywhere. Clearly, regulation is…

It’s pretty easy to stop eating processed crap. Heck, it’s easy to stop eating entirely for most of the day. Skip breakfast and lunch. Have a single meal a day and use the time you saved from skipping the other meals to prepare something nutritious and delicious. It’s so easy that people have been doing it for thousands of years. Except now it’s even easier because you don’t have to stalk a gazelle or wake up at dawn…

Don't skip. Eat at least 3 meals a day with a good balance of Carbs, Protein and Fat.

For a snack, have some whey protein.

Then you will have the energy to lift weights 3 times a week, and do cardio (or just long walks) days inbetween.

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