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Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by smt88 »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #104
tmpz22 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phew thank gif they open sourced a compression library it was worth the privacy of 500_000_000 children being monetized. And where would we be without React? Chaos, chaos everywhere…

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Every conceivable crime has been around since civilization began, including exploitation of children.

If your argument is that it's not a big deal or not a solvable problem, then what's the point of doing anything? Should we ignore every problem because it existed in the past?

I just don't understand what these types of comments are supposed to accomplish. It's anti-progress to the point of absurdity.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by bongoman37 »

coding123 wrote: post #96
jjulius wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win. To be fair, the spokesperson's tone, and the insistence that they'll be fighting, does make them sound pretty pissed off.

So how about, Facebook spokesperson furious...

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Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by bryan_w »

sschueller wrote: post #13

The lobbying by Facebook and co. against TikTok appears to have started to back fire. If you keep pointing out how toxic Tiktok is to the young you can expect people to start looking into other apps that the young use as well.

It seem like he would be fine with whatever restrictions they placed as long as it applied to all the companies equally. It seems like his major gripe was that it wouldn't affect tiktok

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by JohnFen »

AraceliHarker wrote: post #24

Mark Zuckerberg himself seems to understand the importance of privacy very well, taping over the microphone and camera on his MacBook Pro, keeping his trash can from being scavenged by others, and FB spending heavily to protect his security, so why does he have the exact opposite attitude towards others?

> why does he have the exact opposite attitude towards others?

Because his income depends on it, of course. Not giving a shit is table stakes for these companies.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by JohnFen »

sschueller wrote: post #13

The lobbying by Facebook and co. against TikTok appears to have started to back fire. If you keep pointing out how toxic Tiktok is to the young you can expect people to start looking into other apps that the young use as well.

You can't beat my kids! Only I should be allowed to do that.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by JohnFen »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #111
ferminaut wrote: post #65

Facebook (and much of social media) is the modern day Philip Morris peddling addictive experiences...except the harm is way less obvious. Folks arent getting cancer, but they are wrecking their mental health. The difference is social media falls under the first amendment and is much harder to regulate. It's a borderline national security issue, too.

I think it’s a plausible argument. But shouldn’t we regulate the whole industry then instead of going after a single company? Also there are clearly some benefits from social media so I wouldn’t want to get rid of all of it. For example messaging doesn’t seem so bad in terms of harm vs value. Or things like Facebook Groups that are more like discussion forums (even HN itself falls under this!)

> But shouldn’t we regulate the whole industry then instead of going after a single company?

Yes. The only problem I have with the government going after TikTok is that they should be going after the entire industry.

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by deltree7 »

isthiseasymode wrote: post #213
deltree7 wrote: post #207

Meta should take FTC all the way to supreme court for their regulatory overreach and kneecap them, so that unelected, incompetent people don't bring their biased agenda to governing businesses https://about.fb.com/news/2023/05/upholding-our-commitment-t...

Well, that won’t go well since they agreed to a settlement.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/05/upholding-our-commitment-t...

Thank God for the Supreme Court which will see right through Lina Khan's agenda. And you can thank Lina Khan for destroying FTC through her overreach

Re: Facebook has not been doing enough to comply with a 2020 privacy order: FTC

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Post by JohnFen »

ferminaut wrote: post #144
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s a plausible argument. But shouldn’t we regulate the whole industry then instead of going after a single company? Also there are clearly some benefits from social media so I wouldn’t want to get rid of all of it. For example messaging doesn’t seem so bad in terms of harm vs value. Or things like Facebook Groups that are more like discussion forums (even HN itself falls under this!)

Yeah I agree. Singling out the largest player is silly. We've basically given different nations the ability to control the thoughts of society. Social media hasnt been organic for a long time. Organic social media grows until it is consumed by bots and bad actors. I dont think removing social media is a solution. I do think some sort of realID for social media that could identify every user is real & a certain age wo…

> (think Worldcoin but not done by a private entity)

The problem with what Worldcoin was doing wasn't that they were a private entity.

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