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> shouldn't we research the effects of internet pornography in kids before How do you propose we do that ethically?
You can interview people about their past experiences.
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You're proposing a technical solution to a political problem. It doesn't work, this should be fixed at the source.
How exactly it doesn't work? Not even China has been able to make their Great Firewall resilient to stuff like VPNs.
Think of it in terms of adblocking. You and I know all the tricks, but Google's bottom line suggests most people do not, and don't seem to mind. Similarly, the Great Firewall is tolerated because it doesn't block the things that are necessary for living life in China.
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But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?
I suspect any academic study proposing to show pornography to minors is going to get shut down pretty quickly. In my own anecdotal experience I’d say it definitely can be dangerous and depends on a variety of factors, a key one IMO being what kind of pornography we’re even talking about. In my youth we discovered a friends dad nudie mag stash. Lots of glamour photography of topless women, some full nudity too but alw…
Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.
But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?
The question then becomes what should be classified as pornography. Justice Stewart famously said "I know it when I see it". My definition is close: "pornography is that which harms my soul". That means that what is porn will differ for different people and probably by age as well.
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Why do you think that? I think it's a good thing for minors to have unrestricted access to porn
Call me a prude. Call me old fashioned. Call me small minded. But watching a woman getting chocked while DPed in her anus while a half dozen men ejaculate on her is not the type of extra-curricular activity [1] I want my soon to be teenaged daughters' boyfriends interested in. Im just... overprotective I guess. [1] If anyone calls me out for knowing what's on the front page of all of these smut sites, guess what? We…
The problem isn’t the sex. The problem is the violence.
Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.
But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?
It creates a space for people to explore and normalise their distressing sexual interests without questioning the root causes.
Producers will often intentionally seek out vulnerable young women and groom them with promises of fame and riches, only for them to become reliant on painkillers and other drugs to cope with the reality of it.
It creates a market for the abuse of trafficking victims. Most sites don't require verification of consent and most users don't care.
It teaches men to objectify their partners and to see them as something to be shared. There is a huge market now for non consensual revenge pornography. Reddit has seen multiple subreddiys dedicated to non-consensual intimate media.
It provides a safe space for people to express racist, misogynistic and otherwise antisocial viewpoints.
PornHub in its front page today has videos of stimulated assaults and incest. For young viewers it gives them the idea that it's normal to be sexually interested in these things.
I'm not religious. I'm sex positive and believe in being open with children about the realities of life. Pornography stole years of my life, warped my views of relationships and prevented me from reflecting seriously on my own traumas.
Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.
Phub is also a legitimate business that has commercial advertising interests in the US, so they're incentivized to play nice. There are about a million other websites that aren't based in North America, contain only pirated material, and don't care about what laws are applicable where.
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But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?
Pornography is that which harms the soul. That's true of all people not just minors. The question then becomes what should be classified as pornography. Justice Stewart famously said "I know it when I see it". My definition is close: "pornography is that which harms my soul". That means that what is porn will differ for different people and probably by age as well.
I believe they were asking for research or something measurable, not platitudes.
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Except despite the vast amounts of counter-evidence, people still are somehow dumb enough to think that hiding stuff from kids works (drugs, guns, porn, e.t.c). Porn is absolutely fine for kids to watch as long as the parents properly contextualize it. The issue is that somehow societally accepted that its taboo to talk to your kid about sex at an early age, and plenty of otherwise normal parents are embarrassed to d…
Porn is very addictive to many people (Reddit has some great posts by many people trying to break free) - anything that gives you a huge dose of dopamine for little effort can be dangerous to someone’s life (not medically dangerous, but certainly emotionally and motivationally). It’s like saying drugs are absolutely fine because they don’t destroy everyone that take them. Or maybe alcohol is a better comparison.
In the same way video games are very addictive because it gives you a sense of accomplishment when you have no mental tools to go out and improve your situation in life.
In the same way weed is addictive when you have no mental tools to face hardships in your life and you would rather escape into a care free state of mind.
Nothing to do with the things at hand, everything to do with mental conditioning from an early age, a.k.a upbringing, a.k.a parenting.