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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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rtpg wrote: post #55
jrochkind1 wrote: post #34

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What ways are there to verify age online other than photo IDs? Real question, I am not familiar with this area. When I google, I find several third-party "age verification as a service" services. Their marketing isn't always clear about what they actually do, but I think they all look like they get photo ID (not sure if they do anything to try to confirm the person sending the ID is that person). Their pricing is als…

One example: in Japan cell phone operators provide a mechanism by which you can OAuth into their system, and then they will tell you whether the user is over 18 or not. This lets Line age-restrict "become friends with random people online" functionality.

That doesn't scale well. How does it expand to PCs, SmartTVs, tablets, games consoles, etc?

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Post by LinuxBender »

johnnymorgan wrote: post #6

In other news, VPN subscription sales explode in Utah! easy sales opportunity

I was thinking about this. Do sites like Pornhub use DRM in their players? Asking because AFAIK browsers will pass a network ID that does not change when DRM is used. In Firefox it is in "about:networking#networkid" and they don't make it easy to change that. I believe Chrome has something similar. I think it also uses serial numbers? Could be I am mixing up identifiers used in DRM vs. browser specific integrations.

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Post by xyzzy4747 »

aflag wrote: post #46
xyzzy4747 wrote: post #37

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Just my own thoughts: there could theoretically be an identity system that simply replies "Yes/No" if someone is underage or not. But nothing like this exists to my knowledge.

That service would need to be run by a third party, which would know your id and the fact that you are trying to access pornhub, wouldn't it?

Yes, something that has access to your actual ID.

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Post by Arnt »

tiagod wrote: post #60
Arnt wrote: post #13

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"They're going to have a problem" — for whom is that a problem? Porhub made the best reasonable effort. The ISPs supplied inaccurate data and are in the jurisdiction, but aren't required to supply anything at all AFAICT. Who has a problem?

Usually it's Maxmind supplying the data. They might get it from ISPs, but not necessarily.

Mutatis mutandis. ISPs aren't required by law to supply accurate geolocation AFAICT, but neither are you, neither am I, and neither is the company in the building next to your office.

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Post by thehm »

rtpg wrote: post #50
tokai wrote: post #32

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>Maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad thing if they did something I don't get that. Why would it be good? Why should it ever be a webpage's responsibility?

There are some people who believe that access to certain services should be age-gated. Thus follows that a web page offering the service should handle this age gating, in the same way that alcohol sellers are responsible for checking that their customers are of drinking age. In the Real World(TM) this is a fairly uncontroversial idea. The Internet is very wild west on these things and that has lead to interesting out…

Where can one buy an internet connection without being at least 18 years old?

To use your analogy, it is parents who are paying for the alcohol and then leaving it in a place where it is easy for their children to access. Responsible parents either teach their children about appropriate alcohol use or make it difficult to access, or both.

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Post by CubsFan1060 »

aflag wrote: post #46
xyzzy4747 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just my own thoughts: there could theoretically be an identity system that simply replies "Yes/No" if someone is underage or not. But nothing like this exists to my knowledge.

That service would need to be run by a third party, which would know your id and the fact that you are trying to access pornhub, wouldn't it?

To be clear, I hate all of these ideas.

But, I think Apple already does this. https://developer.apple.com/wallet/get-started-with-verify-w...

"Information about past presentments — including where, when, and what personal information you share — is encrypted and stored only on your device. Neither the state issuing authority nor Apple can see your presentment history."

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213046

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