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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Hahaha yeah right, how is porn a scourge on society, it is a niche art that a minority of people engage in, at most a right of passage for teenagers to watch when they stumble across it. Although these days probably not as hard as in vhs times. There are far bigger things to worry about than the social impact of people engaging in consensual sexual activity for the film and magazine.

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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It’s probably only a matter of time. The internet became the only place where age verification wasn’t really a thing. I’m honestly more surprised this didn’t happen 20 years ago.

I believe it is not the responsibility of the government to police what your child is doing.

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This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

First admendment?

I’m not aware of any cases holding that distribution of pornography to minors is protected speech, but I’d be happy to be educated if you have one.

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This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

What ways are there to verify age online other than photo IDs? Real question, I am not familiar with this area. When I google, I find several third-party "age verification as a service" services. Their marketing isn't always clear about what they actually do, but I think they all look like they get photo ID (not sure if they do anything to try to confirm the person sending the ID is that person). Their pricing is als…

One example: in Japan cell phone operators provide a mechanism by which you can OAuth into their system, and then they will tell you whether the user is over 18 or not. This lets Line age-restrict "become friends with random people online" functionality.

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Everybody knows that prohibition does not work. People will get their fix any other way.

Some people will have their fix anyway, while others will find that the friction starts to change their habits away from it. Unless you believe access friction has no psychological impact at all.

And the friction is going to be especially impactful if you're a young teen and haven't been hooked into it as a habit yet.

I speak partially from experience, as someone from a country with a lot of porn blocked. It was super annoying at first, but I just (mostly subconsciously) shifted to written erotica and other forms of erotic media. Sexual need is of course a deep seated human need, but porn is hardly the only way to deal with it, and in fact is one of the least healthy ways. There's a lot of f'ed up erotica out there, but in the end it's still much easier to see the characters as people and remember that sex happens in the larger context of life.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

Not to mention that "identifying users by their device" is the wet dream of BigTech - it's like a "hardware cookie" that can track you anywhere you go on the internet. (And that's exactly why BigTech like Microsoft, Google, Apple etc. are already promoting user authentication by device, as the first step towards this).

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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It’s probably only a matter of time. The internet became the only place where age verification wasn’t really a thing. I’m honestly more surprised this didn’t happen 20 years ago.

20 years ago, Microsoft Internet Explorer had settings for exactly what maximum age rating of websites you wanted to be allowed to see. I vaguely remember one of the options being "full frontal nudity". Were there separate options for sex vs. violence, or was that just my imagination?

Content Advisor, it was added in IE6.

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Tangential question: given the Cold War memes of the "red scare" and "better dead than red", how/why did the Republican Party decide to keep that colour scheme?

I mean, if even the British Royal Family had to change its name from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the House of Windsor…

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Presumably they are using some form of IP address geolocation. If that's as inaccurate in the USA as it is in Australia, they're going to have problems - a lot of the time it puts me in the wrong State.

"They're going to have a problem" — for whom is that a problem? Porhub made the best reasonable effort. The ISPs supplied inaccurate data and are in the jurisdiction, but aren't required to supply anything at all AFAICT. Who has a problem?

Usually it's Maxmind supplying the data. They might get it from ISPs, but not necessarily.
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