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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by formerly_proven »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #20

This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

Personally I think these kinds of regulations are pointless and just needlessly destructive. If you actually start to enforce them you get results like in germany, where they created an AI/ML tool scanning public posts for lewd pictures (marked 18+ or not, since that doesn't matter under german law) and try to fine the poster. Compliant sites actually do require state-issued ID to validate your age and grant access. It's extremely invasive.

I think the internet access of minors is their parents business. This is a very reasonable approach, largely the case for most other aspects of law anyway, and has minimal externalities. Lawmakers can pass minimum standards for content filtering/restrictions that major device manufacturers need to comply with.

It is also orders of magnitude more practical to ensure a "safe experience" with device-side restrictions compared to the feeble and nonsensical attempt of making the entire internet safe for ten year olds.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by tokai »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #20

This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

>Maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad thing if they did something

I don't get that. Why would it be good? Why should it ever be a webpage's responsibility?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by squarefoot »

marcofiset wrote: post #16
Eumenes wrote: post #12

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Everybody knows that prohibition does not work. People will get their fix any other way.

It's astonishing that we must repeat again and again that when alcohol was prohibited, it was sold anyway under the counter, and among those profiting from that black market were Al Capone and other similarly nice people.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by jrochkind1 »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #20

This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

What ways are there to verify age online other than photo IDs? Real question, I am not familiar with this area.

When I google, I find several third-party "age verification as a service" services. Their marketing isn't always clear about what they actually do, but I think they all look like they get photo ID (not sure if they do anything to try to confirm the person sending the ID is that person). Their pricing is also not generally public.

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Post by brookst »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #20

This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

So having read the law, what form of age verification do you thunk would allow pornhub to operate legally in Utah?

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Post by phonescreen_man »

Eumenes wrote: post #12

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Hahaha yeah right, how is porn a scourge on society, it is a niche art that a minority of people engage in, at most a right of passage for teenagers to watch when they stumble across it. Although these days probably not as hard as in vhs times. There are far bigger things to worry about than the social impact of people engaging in consensual sexual activity for the film and magazine.

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Post by xyzzy4747 »

aflag wrote: post #29
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #20

This all seems a little disingenuous. First, from their summary, it doesn’t sound like the law actually requires checking a photo ID. They’re treating it like some maximalist regulation that it isn’t—it requires them to do more than nothing though. And also > PornHub said that a better solution is to identify users by their device. Pornhub effectively does absolutely nothing to verify users’ ages right now. Maybe it…

I'm curious. What's in between nothing and checking id?

Just my own thoughts: there could theoretically be an identity system that simply replies "Yes/No" if someone is underage or not. But nothing like this exists to my knowledge.
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