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Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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travisporter wrote: post #26
KennyBlanken wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Red light cameras are proven to reduce the most dangerous intersection crashes (T-bones) at the expense of a slight increase in rear-end collisions (which are the fault of the second driver for following too closely, and likely both drivers for speeding.) Before anyone starts bleating about companies changing cycle times: that's only happened in a few areas and most municipalities and states have caught on to the sca…

I paid 700 bucks at a red light camera in the middle of an empty intersection at 2pm on a Saturday in Culver City, CA. It came out of nowhere. It felt like an obvious money grab

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Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by WheatMillington »

travisporter wrote: post #26
KennyBlanken wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Red light cameras are proven to reduce the most dangerous intersection crashes (T-bones) at the expense of a slight increase in rear-end collisions (which are the fault of the second driver for following too closely, and likely both drivers for speeding.) Before anyone starts bleating about companies changing cycle times: that's only happened in a few areas and most municipalities and states have caught on to the sca…

I paid 700 bucks at a red light camera in the middle of an empty intersection at 2pm on a Saturday in Culver City, CA. It came out of nowhere. It felt like an obvious money grab

Did you run the red just because it was quiet, or do you normally just run reds?

Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by silisili »

caturopath wrote: post #17
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #2

I’m not an old person, but I know I’m going to sound like a curmudgeon saying this. I think it’s just moral decay. I can’t think of any other meaningful reason. In Phoenix, which I consider the national capitol of bad drivers, in the span of less than 10 years, I’ve noticed a staggering number of people in the metro area who just blatantly run red lights now. Sometimes seconds after they’ve turned. It’s straight up r…

I don't think that's a good explanation at all. People are murdering less than a few decades ago, beating their kids less, stealing fewer car stereos. There might indeed be moral decay, but that doesn't answer why fake license plates and not some other thing. I suspect the reason for greater fake license plate use is the same reason for most products picking up: people are selling them, people are hearing about them,…

These are all acts of violence or crime directly against others, and not necessarily signs of moral decay.

I'm not sure moral decay is the term I'd use, perhaps?

I'd argue what's happening is that people seem to care less about other people, and more about themselves. It's more indifference, than outward anger or spite. "I'm not running the red light to hurt you, I just don't care that delays you, and I've got places to be" mindset.

At least, that's what I've concluded from my own observations.

Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

King-Aaron wrote: post #16
djmips wrote: post #3

On the other hand it feels like there's been a huge money grab with automated systems mailing out tickets or maybe I'm just at sore at the $180 red light camera ticket I just paid.

I am absolutely not a fan of fixed or hidden speed cameras, but red light cameras are legitimately good because you have zero reason or excuse to go through a red or speed through an intersection.

One issue has been jurisdictions shortening the length of yellow lights in order to catch people running the red light as a means of revenue generation.

Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by questime »

throwaway68911 wrote: post #23
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #2

I’m not an old person, but I know I’m going to sound like a curmudgeon saying this. I think it’s just moral decay. I can’t think of any other meaningful reason. In Phoenix, which I consider the national capitol of bad drivers, in the span of less than 10 years, I’ve noticed a staggering number of people in the metro area who just blatantly run red lights now. Sometimes seconds after they’ve turned. It’s straight up r…

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Bud, do you really think it's immigrants primarily breaking the law in Baltimore of all places?

Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by WalterBright »

King-Aaron wrote: post #16
djmips wrote: post #3

On the other hand it feels like there's been a huge money grab with automated systems mailing out tickets or maybe I'm just at sore at the $180 red light camera ticket I just paid.

I am absolutely not a fan of fixed or hidden speed cameras, but red light cameras are legitimately good because you have zero reason or excuse to go through a red or speed through an intersection.

Avoiding an accident is always a valid reason for breaking a traffic law.

For example, on a two lane road I'll move into the left lane if there's a cyclist on the right shoulder, if the left lane is clear.

As for a red light, my pedal will be to the metal if my buddy is bleeding out in the passenger seat. Is that far-fetched? It happened to a friend of mine at Boeing. He didn't get his friend to the hospital in time.

Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #2

I’m not an old person, but I know I’m going to sound like a curmudgeon saying this. I think it’s just moral decay. I can’t think of any other meaningful reason. In Phoenix, which I consider the national capitol of bad drivers, in the span of less than 10 years, I’ve noticed a staggering number of people in the metro area who just blatantly run red lights now. Sometimes seconds after they’ve turned. It’s straight up r…

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Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by [deleted] »

nsxwolf wrote: post #25
KennyBlanken wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Red light cameras are proven to reduce the most dangerous intersection crashes (T-bones) at the expense of a slight increase in rear-end collisions (which are the fault of the second driver for following too closely, and likely both drivers for speeding.) Before anyone starts bleating about companies changing cycle times: that's only happened in a few areas and most municipalities and states have caught on to the sca…

They fill me full of dread and anxiety. Surely that reduces life expectancy?

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Re: More Americans are using fake license plates

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Post by loeg »

mjevans wrote: post #29
djmips wrote: post #3

On the other hand it feels like there's been a huge money grab with automated systems mailing out tickets or maybe I'm just at sore at the $180 red light camera ticket I just paid.

Traffic enforcement should REQUIRE a police officer to be physically present at the time of the incident OR a retroactive issue related to an accident that happened. The officer's presence would encourage safer driving at problematic intersections.

There aren't enough cops to go around.
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