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U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Post by lamontcg »

lelanthran wrote: post #120
lamontcg wrote: post #119

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The problem with teen girls is very likely social media. The focus on them is because the problem is pretty stark and takes off nicely coincident with facebook. But its interesting that you'd use all the redpill tropes that men have been getting fed by social media to passive aggressively point out that men suffer from the same problems too. You're both explicitly and implicitly arguing the point that men suffer as w…

> In other words, I agree men are being made miserable by social media, because you sound miserable. Ah yes, shaming language. The correct response to a suicide epidemic. Well done -that's never been done before /s

I'm pointing out that you're eating propaganda which is unhealthy for your mind.

It is just like pointing out that eating processed foods leads to physical obesity.

That isn't shaming, that's advice.

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

tomohawk wrote: post #68

The newest member of the US Supreme Court was asked to define what a woman was. She refused. We have a culture where people either don't know what a woman is or are too intimidated to talk about it. Is this what girls have to look forward to? I'd be depressed, too.

It's the same definition as what a Celt is: someone who honestly identifies as one.

In the past, we thought both were more exact (mostly because gender was a synonym for "sex" aka "allosome configuration" aka "XX haver").

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

dotandgtfo wrote: post #99
revelio wrote: post #95

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This thread is getting quite confusing. OK, your argument is that only a tiny minority of people are engaged in misandry like constantly talking about incels, and they are exaggerated by the internet, and most of society actually cares a lot about problems that affect men. Is that right? I gotta ask because you seem to be disagreeing with the thesis of this thread, but then it appears like you keep rephrasing the poi…

Yes, that is my point. Ok, I'll spell it out clearly for you then. Research is being done on both girls and boys, adults and children. There are rational explanations for why you mostly hear about the girls (the numbers there are insane, and more likely to bubble up into your feed). But the comment thread here seems to take the stance that men are being profiled and biased by this research through a political and an…

> t's an extreme position you've been fed through the information you consume online.

DoctorRandomercam plug XD

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Post by zmgsabst »

hotpotamus wrote: post #98
zmgsabst wrote: post #93

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That’s within the context of my comment. Also, extremely unlikely. But they’ll be better served by the mentality that they can than worrying about a victim narrative about how they’ll never be able to succeed. Eg, this. https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/10/12/after-bec...

Do you think repeatedly failing to achieve a goal that you may never have been able to in the first place is good for mental health? Getting people to believe some lie about how they can achieve anything might make you feel better, but it seems fundamentally dishonest; despite what we may wish, not all the children can be above average. I'm glad the person in your example has the support required to spend his time do…

I think it’s better for mental health than not trying due to grievance and negging narratives.

Most people calibrate their expectations; the people who don’t sometimes succeed — and don’t seem to wither the way people who don’t try tend to.

Again, my point isn’t that they’ll all succeed — but they’re strictly better off with a mentality that they should try.

To your point about living independently, that’s exactly my point: the ones trying live more independently and require less support because they do the most they can — rather than emotionally imploding, not trying, and requiring extra support.

That’s better for both them and their caregivers.

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Post by lelanthran »

lamontcg wrote: post #121
lelanthran wrote: post #120

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> In other words, I agree men are being made miserable by social media, because you sound miserable. Ah yes, shaming language. The correct response to a suicide epidemic. Well done -that's never been done before /s

I'm pointing out that you're eating propaganda which is unhealthy for your mind. It is just like pointing out that eating processed foods leads to physical obesity. That isn't shaming, that's advice.

> I'm pointing out that you're eating propaganda which is unhealthy for your mind

Dismissing statistics from a Wikipedia page on suicide as propaganda is also not new.

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