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U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am 100% with you. Parents should have the right and responsibility to monitor and regulate their children's consumption of aforementioned tools.
Do you blame personal responsibility for the obesity epidemic? Do you blame personal responsibility for a smoker’s lung cancer? Do you blame personal responsibility for the liver failure of an alcoholic? Do you blame personal responsibility for the Rohingya genocide? It’s easy to blame the parents when Meta creates a hyper addictive application with beauty filters for example that amplifies society’s pressure on youn…
Yes, I always blame people for the things they do; to themselves, and to others.
There is a time where it's excusable, like when it wasn't clear that smoking causes cancer. But when you should know, then you should know.
I also understand that addiction is extremely difficult to fight, so I don't judge people who are addicted. But it is still their responsibility to solve the problem, or not to. It's the community's responsibility to support people fighting their addictions.
I judge people who pretend that there's no problem, say it isn't their responsibility, and let their children get addicted too.
Meta, and the entire internet, is a shit show. Corporations poison people's minds and addict them to useless content. They ruin lives. But that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in myself if I give into it.
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#113Look around you and observe your friends, family, colleagues, or a significant other, but really: any adults. This is not only affecting "teen girls", and certainly not only US people. We need more research on this without "teen girls" in the clickbait titles. This affects everyone. It affected the person of my romantic interest and I had to break up at the end. This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Be…
> This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Society doesn't fix things unless women are affected Its routine, right now in popular culture to regard rape as a joke, to make fun of the victims, to trivialise it, to limit discussions about it... Unless it's a female victim. Same with violence, more men are victims than women, but only females receive the help and support. Even with these new (dubious) number…
The USA is currently engaging in widespread active revocation of women's rights.
And, yes, suicide attempts and suicide injuries are included in the report. I suggest you read past the headline. The report does not support your "this affects everybody equally" claims.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Society doesn't fix things unless women are affected Its routine, right now in popular culture to regard rape as a joke, to make fun of the victims, to trivialise it, to limit discussions about it... Unless it's a female victim. Same with violence, more men are victims than women, but only females receive the help and support. Even with these new (dubious) number…
The USA is currently engaging in widespread active revocation of women's rights. And, yes, suicide attempts and suicide injuries are included in the report. I suggest you read past the headline. The report does not support your "this affects everybody equally" claims.
> And, yes, suicide attempts and suicide injuries are included in the report.
But not suicides.
It's always been the case that females attempt suicide or express suicidal thoughts more than males but we lose, by a massive margin, more males to suicide than females: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide
Actual death is a more important problem than injury, and yet it's the injury that is getting the attention, not the actual death.
> I suggest you read past the headline. The report does not support your "this affects everybody equally" claims.
Before you jump to conclusions you might want to read up on this particular area of research. The wikipedia page above is a good starting point (follow the link "suicide paradox").
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is just factually inaccurate. Society cares a lot about male problems. Men have a legitimate complaint that public displays of misandry are tolerated far beyond what is fair, but in terms of on-the-ground outcomes it is hard to point to anything unreasonable going on. At scale anyway, the world is full of local warts. The main problem men have when it comes to medical outcomes is their absolute refusal to seek h…
Research on breast cancer is much better funded than prostate cancer. Might this serves as a hard point, in light of the higher fatality of the latter?
And yet it is very easy to lay hands on a study saying that the overall system is over-funding diseases that affect men [0]. It is not very useful to find one data point arguing either way.
Besides, we'd probably expect strictly gendered disease problems to be biased towards spending on women. Men have a prostrate and a penis to keep tabs of, women have an entire reproductive system that looks mighty complex and delicate. Given the amount of money that is hopefully sloshing around to make it safe for women to have kids, maybe some of it spilled over into breast cancer funding. It is a reasonable situation.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Beauty filters", in the form of cosmetics, have been widely used by both men and women at least since the days of ancient Egypt, 5000 years ago. Likely before... that's just the earliest record we have.
It’s not the same thing and you know this. Plastic surgery is similar, wearing some make up is one thing, changing the structure of your face is something else.
> It’s not the same thing and you know this.
Nonsense. I "know" nothing of the kind.
> Plastic surgery is similar, wearing some make up is one thing, changing the structure of your face is something else.
On the contrary. Plastic surgery is a permanent alteration. Wearing makeup and using "beauty filters" are both temporary.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do you blame personal responsibility for the Rohingya genocide? Umm.... yes? I mean, who should be blamed for a genocide other than the people who carried it out? (edited to remove unnecessary snark)
Meta had a nice helping hand in it. Maybe they should take blame too?
Sorry, I've never been very sympathetic to "The Devil/Meta made me do it" excuses.
You are aware that literally billions of people somehow manage to use Facebook without going out afterward and murdering their neighbors, yes?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Research on breast cancer is much better funded than prostate cancer. Might this serves as a hard point, in light of the higher fatality of the latter?
And yet it is very easy to lay hands on a study saying that the overall system is over-funding diseases that affect men [0]. It is not very useful to find one data point arguing either way. Besides, we'd probably expect strictly gendered disease problems to be biased towards spending on women. Men have a prostrate and a penis to keep tabs of, women have an entire reproductive system that looks mighty complex and deli…
Looks like the diseases in question there are diseases that are more prevalent amongst men than women. Not diseases that are exclusively for men over women. Perhaps there is a curve where if its a disease that can affect both genders there is a bias for men, and if it is exclusively to a specific gender then women get the benefit.
Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence
#119Look around you and observe your friends, family, colleagues, or a significant other, but really: any adults. This is not only affecting "teen girls", and certainly not only US people. We need more research on this without "teen girls" in the clickbait titles. This affects everyone. It affected the person of my romantic interest and I had to break up at the end. This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Be…
> This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Society doesn't fix things unless women are affected Its routine, right now in popular culture to regard rape as a joke, to make fun of the victims, to trivialise it, to limit discussions about it... Unless it's a female victim. Same with violence, more men are victims than women, but only females receive the help and support. Even with these new (dubious) number…
The problem with teen girls is very likely social media. The focus on them is because the problem is pretty stark and takes off nicely coincident with facebook.
But its interesting that you'd use all the redpill tropes that men have been getting fed by social media to passive aggressively point out that men suffer from the same problems too. You're both explicitly and implicitly arguing the point that men suffer as well.
It is just more difficult to track grown men because right wing radio has been making them miserable for decades, so there hasn't been a stark change in the past 15 years or so.
In other words, I agree men are being made miserable by social media, because you sound miserable.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it. Society doesn't fix things unless women are affected Its routine, right now in popular culture to regard rape as a joke, to make fun of the victims, to trivialise it, to limit discussions about it... Unless it's a female victim. Same with violence, more men are victims than women, but only females receive the help and support. Even with these new (dubious) number…
The problem with teen girls is very likely social media. The focus on them is because the problem is pretty stark and takes off nicely coincident with facebook. But its interesting that you'd use all the redpill tropes that men have been getting fed by social media to passive aggressively point out that men suffer from the same problems too. You're both explicitly and implicitly arguing the point that men suffer as w…
> In other words, I agree men are being made miserable by social media, because you sound miserable.
Ah yes, shaming language. The correct response to a suicide epidemic.
Well done -that's never been done before /s