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Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by AmpsterMan »

marcusverus wrote: post #197
botanical wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A legacy of the Pinochet era in Chile is the privatisation of minerals and water, which gives companies ownership of those resources in an area. While mining operations squeeze this already dry region even drier, communities lose their access to potable water, leaving them relying on tankers to deliver it. “We used to have a river before that now doesn’t exist. There isn’t a drop of water,” says Rivera. “And not on…

Your article is pretending that the water access issues are caused by lithium mining. This is a specious argument that only makes sense because they omitted the obviously pertinent fact that Chile is in the grip of a decade-long drought. That's FUD, my dude.

If Chile is undergoing a drought, are there not ethical considerations for prioritizing water for the benefit of the public rather than for manufacturing?

Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by tourgen »

xbmcuser wrote: post #2

The more I read about prices of different commodities the more I realise the biggest movement in prices is not because of demand and supply but rather because of speculation and gambling. And how most of the news is manipulated. For example they are equating lithium price fall with stagnating car sales. Where as car sales might be stagnating but electric car sales are taking a larger portion of total car sales ie ele…

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Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by ryukafalz »

oceanplexian wrote: post #256
aintgonnatakeit wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happens with the gas stove threads. I can’t believe that actual people are that invested in burning hydrocarbons.

They put out less BTUs (9k vs 15k-25k from a high end gas burner) and you can’t cook certain types of cuisines like a stir fry, getting a good sear on steaks, etc. As someone who went from Gas to Electric it really is a massive downgrade.

> As someone who went from Gas to Electric it really is a massive downgrade.

Resistive or induction?

Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by comte7092 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #256
aintgonnatakeit wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happens with the gas stove threads. I can’t believe that actual people are that invested in burning hydrocarbons.

They put out less BTUs (9k vs 15k-25k from a high end gas burner) and you can’t cook certain types of cuisines like a stir fry, getting a good sear on steaks, etc. As someone who went from Gas to Electric it really is a massive downgrade.

> They put out less BTUs (9k vs 15k-25k from a high end gas burner)

How much of that makes it into the pan, and how much is waste heat?

Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by influxmoment »

elif wrote: post #109

Because I see so much "conflict metals" discussion when lithium is discussed, I would like to contribute that less than 3% of global lithium production takes place on small artisanal mines, in which place human rights abuse may occur. Over 85% of lithium is produced by just 2 international corporations with large scale mines complying with multiple international regulation requirements.

Wow the replies to this are nuts. All sorts of mental contortions to make lithium sound controversial when it's way down the list of controversial industries

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Post by comte7092 »

megaman821 wrote: post #255
BeFlatXIII wrote: post #247

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The gas stove bans are idiotic and petty to defend based on environmentalist principles. The amount of gas burned by those stoves makes roughly zero impact compared with all the other hydrocarbons we burn.

The ban of gas connections and by extension gas water heaters, gas furnaces and gas stoves is being reframed to be just gas stoves. So yes, if you cherry-pick the lowest impact item out of the list of gas appliances, the impact is low.

Exactly this. Gas stoves are the flashpoint, because at the end of the day, people generally don’t think about what type of energy their heating comes from. The gas stove is the deciding factor that determines whether or not a gas line gets hooked up to a home or not.

Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by smitty1e »

yunohn wrote: post #96
smitty1e wrote: post #92

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Source? Morality seems more of a subjective call, e.g. "Thou shalt marry heterosexually ahead of procreation", than a stochastic analysis, e.g. "X percent of fatal car crashes involve blood alcohol above Y concentration."

Straight from Wikipedia, which is an objective source for such a general topic. Religious morality is a sub-category, not all of morality itself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality

What I'm after is that much of the ethics by which our legal system operates, e.g. a BAC limit for legal driving, is divorced from moral questions such as: "Is drinking beer a sinful act?"

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Post by vel0city »

oceanplexian wrote: post #256
aintgonnatakeit wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happens with the gas stove threads. I can’t believe that actual people are that invested in burning hydrocarbons.

They put out less BTUs (9k vs 15k-25k from a high end gas burner) and you can’t cook certain types of cuisines like a stir fry, getting a good sear on steaks, etc. As someone who went from Gas to Electric it really is a massive downgrade.

I have an electric stove and can assure you it's entirely possible to stir fry and have a good sear on a steak. I do it pretty often.

Re: Why are lithium prices collapsing?

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Post by misssocrates »

elif wrote: post #109

Because I see so much "conflict metals" discussion when lithium is discussed, I would like to contribute that less than 3% of global lithium production takes place on small artisanal mines, in which place human rights abuse may occur. Over 85% of lithium is produced by just 2 international corporations with large scale mines complying with multiple international regulation requirements.

Are people confusing lithium with cobalt? Where 70% of it comes from the Congo.

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Post by oblio »

landemva wrote: post #251
elif wrote: post #109

Because I see so much "conflict metals" discussion when lithium is discussed, I would like to contribute that less than 3% of global lithium production takes place on small artisanal mines, in which place human rights abuse may occur. Over 85% of lithium is produced by just 2 international corporations with large scale mines complying with multiple international regulation requirements.

> mines complying with multiple international regulation requirements Really? Please cite which regs apply in North Korea. I am an actual miner. We have State and national regulators who visit and have authority to stop work. I have neither seen nor heard of international regulators.

Why North Korea?
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