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The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases.
Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance.
Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you would with an ICE fire doesn't work.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reaches-15-billion-settlem... Likely being forced to, a reminder this is the same company that deliberately and consistently cheated on emissions tests in the USA.
It's still a net positive that they're doing this.
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> long-haul electric trucking I wonder, does it even make sense? Long-haul (electric of course) rail + short to medium haul trucking make more sense - it would be much more efficient. Do long haul electric truck even make sense? Don't the batteries needed weigh too much?
It’s an engineering challenge, but doable as you get about a ton of extra weight for EVs. The main mental miscalculation I think people make when they say “why not just trains” is ignoring that rail is a super conservative industry, at least in the US, and in the case of passenger rail (not on existing tracks) that building out new rail infrastructure is super expensive, particularly for HSR where rights of way have…
They're being forced to do it. The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases. Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance. Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you wo…
They're being forced to do it. The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases. Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance. Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you wo…
Aren't all ordinary fires a chemical reaction?
They're being forced to do it. The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases. Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance. Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you wo…
Do people normally remove the oxygen source with ICE fires? Wouldn't that be...the atmosphere?
They're being forced to do it. The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases. Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance. Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you wo…
Do people normally remove the oxygen source with ICE fires? Wouldn't that be...the atmosphere?
(1) What are the lithium-ion-battery fire risks & safety issues?. https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/battery-fire-lithium-i.... (2) Just how concerned should the solar industry be about battery fires?. https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2020/02/just-how-conce.... (3) Why Lithium Batteries Catch Fire - ThoughtCo. https://www.thoughtco.com/why-lithium-batteries-catch-fire-6.... (4) Can Batteries Catch On Fire? Do They Ever Explode? - Firefighter Insider. https://firefighterinsider.com/batteries-catch-fire-or-explo.... (5) Lithium Battery Fires: How to Spot the Warning Signs. https://www.erieinsurance.com/blog/lithium-battery-fires.
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It's still a net positive that they're doing this.
Unless this is cover for something else. Unless this is just greenwashing. Unless this project pulls money in that would otherwise have gone to more effective projects. Commercial EV charge points are great but the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the…
What EVs would they be. At least in Europe all new EVs use CCS and most of the older ones used Type-2. They can all be charged from an ordinary 230 V, 10 A domestic supply; Schuko in Europe or BS1363 in the UK (and Ireland?).
They're being forced to do it. The natural market for EVs is a maximum of 20%. The cost/benefit is only positive for certain use cases. Ford can't sell its Lightning F150 EVs. They just had a fire on one of the holding lots too that burned a bunch of them down. I guess they'll have to take the insurance. Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Removing the oxygen source like you wo…
> Fun fact about EV fires: they're a chemical reaction, not an ordinary fire. Aren't all ordinary fires a chemical reaction?
A chemical fire is far more complex and potentially dangerous than a normal fire.
Gasoline is a chemical, however we have a lot of experience dealing with gasoline driven fires and they can be easily doused with water. Large battery driven fires in vehicles are a new thing, and they are not easily doused with water.
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Unless this is cover for something else. Unless this is just greenwashing. Unless this project pulls money in that would otherwise have gone to more effective projects. Commercial EV charge points are great but the low hanging fruit remains the vast numbers of private vehicles not currently served by charging schemes. Those people are basically everyone who doesn't own a house with a garage where they can install the…
> the bespoke charger for their particular EV. What EVs would they be. At least in Europe all new EVs use CCS and most of the older ones used Type-2. They can all be charged from an ordinary 230 V, 10 A domestic supply; Schuko in Europe or BS1363 in the UK (and Ireland?).
The good news is that there's an emerging standard for this, so hopefully Daimler adopts it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System